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johnB33

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Hi, I aiming to build a pc for photo editing, which includes stacking up 120x100MB pics for Milky Way imaging. I also need grunt and memory as I'm planning on running a linux virtual machine to do some antenna modelling. My monitor will be a Benq SW240.

Really what I'm after is someone to let me know if they're any obvious gotchas in this spec, which is right on the limit of what I can afford.

Thanks for your time. J.

Case
FRACTAL MESHIFY S2 TEMPERED GLASS
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 12 Core CPU (3.7GHz-4.8GHz/70MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF X570-PLUS GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0, CrossFireX) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
6GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1660 - HDMI, DP - GeForce GTX VR Ready!
1st Storage Drive
1TB PCS 2.5" SSD, SATA 6 Gb (520MB/R, 470MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 550W CV SERIES™ CV-550 POWER SUPPLY
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H100x Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS 802.11N 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Keyboard & Mouse
LOGITECH® OPTICAL USB MOUSE
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Subject to stock availability on pre-order products
 
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Laoshu2021

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Hey,

Not exactly experienced in what you are doing with the editing here but I will ask a question. Do you think that the processor power/speed is scaling well with the the speeds of the SSD you've chosen? I'm thinking you obviously get greater speeds if you go for m2 ssd but the question is if you really need it and certainly the cost will be a little higher. What you've selected there might be just fine, I just thought I'd point out and ask. The specs overall are looking great to me! :cool:
 
sck451

sck451

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I reckon you aren't a terribly long way away, but we might be able to optimise a little.. What is your budget? The obvious areas to upgrade would be storage, graphics card, perhaps memory, power supply and cooler. It might well need a downgrade in CPU -- the 5900X offers little advantage over the 5800X in Photoshop.
 
jamiephillips909

jamiephillips909

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Would go for a 750rmx or 850rmx power supply this would allow upgrades in future if your using heavy duty astrophotography programs you will probably need the 5900x if not you can drop down to the 5800x and silver warrenty for £5 extra is worth it
 
Scott

Scott

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As well as the above queries, if you could also post the link at the bottom of the configuration that you copied over we can go in and suggest some changes and easily see how it stacks up money wise.

There are definitely a number of changes you would want to make.
 
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jamiephillips909

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NoddyPirate

NoddyPirate

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johnB33 said:
Hi, I aiming to build a pc for photo editing, which includes stacking up 120x100MB pics for Milky Way imaging.
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Something I will have to look into myself in future! Some amazing results to be had!!

It would actually make me wonder if 32GB of RAM will be enough for you - as it depends on what software you use. I can fill 20+ GB of RAM doing a 15 image photomerge in Lightroom. You're existing experience with your workflow on whatever machine you have now might help you figure that one out.
Laoshu2021 said:
Do you think that the processor power/speed is scaling well with the the speeds of the SSD you've chosen?
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A great point I think. Partcularly with accessing so many large images I would want the fastest drive I could afford - an good spec M.2 SSD would be a must I would think. I would have two of them if I could - one for the OS and whatever program you use for editing - to ensure fast launch times. Then second one for catalogs and working files to get quick access to the images themselves. A HDD could give a cheap option for archive or long term storage then also.
sck451 said:
the 5900X offers little advantage over the 5800X in Photoshop.
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Agreed - but it does depend on specific worklfow - yet in general the 5800X can actually be outright better than the 5900X in many processes. Puget System do a good breakdown here.
 
sck451

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NoddyPirate said:
Agreed - but it does depend on specific worklfow - yet in general the 5800X can actually be outright better than the 5900X in many processes. Puget System do a good breakdown here.
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Oh, definitely, but going for the more expensive CPU and budget components elsewhere would be a bad combination. Upgrading the things that need upgrading (especially the RAM and storage) for the sake of going down to the 5800X would be a good compromise (and I'm on record as not thinking much of the 5800X in general).
 
NoddyPirate

NoddyPirate

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sck451 said:
Oh, definitely, but going for the more expensive CPU and budget components elsewhere would be a bad combination. Upgrading the things that need upgrading (especially the RAM and storage) for the sake of going down to the 5800X would be a good compromise (and I'm on record as not thinking much of the 5800X in general).
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Yep - I’m with you on that! 🙂
 
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jamiephillips909

jamiephillips909

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Case
COOLERMASTER MASTERBOX MB530P ARGB GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 5800X Eight Core CPU (3.8GHz-4.7GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF X570-PLUS GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0, CrossFireX) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3600MHz (4 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
6GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1660 - HDMI, DP - GeForce GTX VR Ready!
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 6900MB/R, 5000MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB CORSAIR MP400 NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD (up to 3480 MB/R, 3000 MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 750W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H100i ELITE CAPELLIX RGB Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
NOT REQUIRED
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Firefox™
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 10 to 12 working days
Price: £1,956.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/wx7KFV5Pnu/

Just a mock up to go off
Missing the logitech optical mouse
 
Scott

Scott

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NoddyPirate said:
Something I will have to look into myself in future! Some amazing results to be had!!

It would actually make me wonder if 32GB of RAM will be enough for you - as it depends on what software you use. I can fill 20+ GB of RAM doing a 15 image photomerge in Lightroom. You're existing experience with your workflow on whatever machine you have now might help you figure that one out.

A great point I think. Partcularly with accessing so many large images I would want the fastest drive I could afford - an good spec M.2 SSD would be a must I would think. I would have two of them if I could - one for the OS and whatever program you use for editing - to ensure fast launch times. Then second one for catalogs and working files to get quick access to the images themselves. A HDD could give a cheap option for archive or long term storage then also.

Agreed - but it does depend on specific worklfow - yet in general the 5800X can actually be outright better than the 5900X in many processes. Puget System do a good breakdown here.
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I think there's a mistake with the data from Puget. You can see that it doesn't add up looking at the charts. I believe they may have simply switched the labels by accident, as the comparisons below the charts would suggest. I think it needs to be clarified from them.

The jump from 5800 - 5900 - 5950 should be fairly linear.

Having said that, for strictly photoshop I don't think there's any real benefit of the 5900X over the 5800X. It'll be seconds of a difference for even the longest of operations.

RAM & storage are far more critical.

Limited with the budget 2x16GB is a fair choice. It'll allow for a further 2x16GB when funds are available.
 
NoddyPirate

NoddyPirate

Grand Master
Scott said:
I think there's a mistake with the data from Puget. You can see that it doesn't add up looking at the charts. I believe they may have simply switched the labels by accident, as the comparisons below the charts would suggest. I think it needs to be clarified from them.

The jump from 5800 - 5900 - 5950 should be fairly linear.

Having said that, for strictly photoshop I don't think there's any real benefit of the 5900X over the 5800X. It'll be seconds of a difference for even the longest of operations.

RAM & storage are far more critical.

Limited with the budget 2x16GB is a fair choice. It'll allow for a further 2x16GB when funds are available.
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Good point - I wonder much of the workloads they bench are single core intensive so the difference is marginal - as they both boost very similarly. But I think the main reason is really that Photoshop and Lightroom don't use more than 6 or 8 ish cores effectively. So having a 5900X or a 5950X doesn't give you any major benefit core count wise, and only gives you marginally better or even perhaps even slower boosts when those 6-8 cores are in use.

It's why the 5600X does so well comparitively.......?
 
sck451

sck451

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The 5900X might be useful for virtual machines.

At MSRP it seems like a much better shout than the 5800X for pretty every purpose, even gaming, but I'm not sure the extra price can be justified here now they're so inflated.
 
NoddyPirate

NoddyPirate

Grand Master
sck451 said:
At MSRP it seems like a much better shout than the 5800X for pretty every purpose, even gaming, but I'm not sure the extra price can be justified here now they're so inflated.
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The frequency boost difference between them, in theory at least, is around 25-75 MHz from 1 core all the up to 8 cores. After that the 5900X runs away with it obviously. So for gaming or low core/thread count applications, I would expect the differences to be pretty minor between the two?
 
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johnB33

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Thanks. for the info guys. I didn't think about the speed of the SSD. My budget is approaching £1800.
jamiephillips909 said:
Would go for a 750rmx or 850rmx power supply this would allow upgrades in future if your using heavy duty astrophotography programs you will probably need the 5900x if not you can drop down to the 5800x and silver warrenty for £5 extra is worth it
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That's where I started PSU wise and the webpage said don't be so silly.

Here's the link I should have posted.

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Laoshu2021 said:
Hey,

Not exactly experienced in what you are doing with the editing here but I will ask a question. Do you think that the processor power/speed is scaling well with the the speeds of the SSD you've chosen? I'm thinking you obviously get greater speeds if you go for m2 ssd but the question is if you really need it and certainly the cost will be a little higher. What you've selected there might be just fine, I just thought I'd point out and ask. The specs overall are looking great to me! :cool:
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That's something I didn't think about. Thank you.
 
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mossmotorsport

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I think a photography sub forum would be really good for the community. A few of us are keen photographers (I’m amateur!) but there could be a some good activity in it?
 
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johnB33

Member
NoddyPirate said:
Good point - I wonder much of the workloads they bench are single core intensive so the difference is marginal - as they both boost very similarly. But I think the main reason is really that Photoshop and Lightroom don't use more than 6 or 8 ish cores effectively. So having a 5900X or a 5950X doesn't give you any major benefit core count wise, and only gives you marginally better or even perhaps even slower boosts when those 6-8 cores are in use.

It's why the 5600X does so well comparitively.......?
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It's actually not just PS as I do my stacking in other software as PS is rubbish at stacking. Currently on my mac I use starrylandscape stacker, but there is another program called Sequator for the pc.

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