PC started rebooting when launching games.

ubuysa

The BSOD Doctor
This dump is dated 8th December 2022, is that from before you replaced the GPU, CPU cooler and PSU (which you did just before Christmas)? If it is prior to the hardware changes then it's going to be of little use unfortunately.

In case it is after the hardware change, this dump has a stop code of 0x133 DPC_WATCHDOG_VIOLATION. DPCs are Deferred Procedure Calls, they are the 'back-end' of interrupt processing.

[TLDR]
When a hardware interrupt is received from a device one of the loigical processors is assigned to handle it. It will save status, identify the device that is interrupting and then run the ISR (Interrupt Service Routine) for that device (it's part of the driver). The ISR must run very quickly because no other work can be done on that logical processor until the ISR has completed. All the ISR does is save the status of the interrupt (ie. whatever the status of the interrupt is; if the result of a read operation for example, then a pointer to the buffer is saved along with the status of the read), and schedule the DPC for that device (also part of the driver). The ISR then terminates and the dispatcher starts another thread on that logical processor.

When a logical processor goes idle (ie. no more work on the ready queue) then the list of scheduled DPCs is executed. A DPC will read the status of the interrupt and decide whether it was successful or not. If a read operation for example, the DPC will notify the thread that started the read and supply a pointer to the buffer where the data can be found. Once one DPC ends then the next in the scheduled list is run, until all DPCs have been executed.

This method of handling interrupts allows for interrupts to be serviced in a timely fashion but without adversely impacting the system throughput.
[/TLDR]

In your dump, argument 1 contains the value 0x1, this indicates that the BSOD happened because the total length of time that all DPCs took to execute exceeded a threshold. Even though DPCs run when a logical processor is idle, they must still run in a timely fashion. The DPC Watchdog checks that all DPCs run within this specified time limit, if this is exceeded then there must be a problem and the system BSODs.

Usually it's a tad tricky to discover which DPC(s) were running for too long, but in your case it's easy, because the long-running DPC is still on the call stack...
Code:
0: kd> knL
 # Child-SP          RetAddr               Call Site
00 fffff807`734a1e18 fffff807`6fc5bf02     nt!KeBugCheckEx
01 fffff807`734a1e20 fffff807`6fad2973     nt!KeAccumulateTicks+0x186d32
02 fffff807`734a1e80 fffff807`6fad245a     nt!KeClockInterruptNotify+0x453
03 fffff807`734a1f30 fffff807`6fa08a45     nt!HalpTimerClockIpiRoutine+0x1a
04 fffff807`734a1f60 fffff807`6fbfb26a     nt!KiCallInterruptServiceRoutine+0xa5
05 fffff807`734a1fb0 fffff807`6fbfba37     nt!KiInterruptSubDispatchNoLockNoEtw+0xfa
06 fffff807`7349a170 fffff807`6fabb8ab     nt!KiInterruptDispatchNoLockNoEtw+0x37
07 fffff807`7349a300 fffff807`87f7b9e3     nt!KzLowerIrql+0x1b
08 fffff807`7349a330 fffff807`7349a3f0     nvlddmkm+0xab9e3
09 fffff807`7349a338 00000000`00000010     0xfffff807`7349a3f0
0a fffff807`7349a340 ffff7475`16c9befb     0x10
0b fffff807`7349a348 fffff807`87f62c5d     0xffff7475`16c9befb
0c fffff807`7349a350 00000000`00000000     nvlddmkm+0x92c5d
The nvlddmkm.sys driver is the Nvidia graphics card driver.

The reason it ran for too long is either because there is a problem with the driver, or because there is a problem with the graphics card (it takes too long to respond to driver instructions for example).

If you've uninstalled all older drivers with DDU and installed the latest driver, and it still BSODs, then I would suggest using DDU again and install then next previous driver. If it still BSODs then try the next previous driver. If it BSODs on the latest three driver versions however then I would think you can discount a driver error.

It could possibly be a Windows issue, but I think that's unlikely. A clean install, as suggested, would eliminate that possibility however.

If it's not a driver issue and it's not a Windows issue then it's a hardware issue - most likely with the graphics card. And since it's a new graphics card I would immediately suspect it. Can you try the original graphics card (remember to use DDU to remove the driver for the 'new' card and install the right driver for the 'old' card) and see whether it still BSODs?
 

Mark1999

Member
This dump is dated 8th December 2022, is that from before you replaced the GPU, CPU cooler and PSU (which you did just before Christmas)? If it is prior to the hardware changes then it's going to be of little use unfortunately.

In case it is after the hardware change, this dump has a stop code of 0x133 DPC_WATCHDOG_VIOLATION. DPCs are Deferred Procedure Calls, they are the 'back-end' of interrupt processing.

[TLDR]
When a hardware interrupt is received from a device one of the loigical processors is assigned to handle it. It will save status, identify the device that is interrupting and then run the ISR (Interrupt Service Routine) for that device (it's part of the driver). The ISR must run very quickly because no other work can be done on that logical processor until the ISR has completed. All the ISR does is save the status of the interrupt (ie. whatever the status of the interrupt is; if the result of a read operation for example, then a pointer to the buffer is saved along with the status of the read), and schedule the DPC for that device (also part of the driver). The ISR then terminates and the dispatcher starts another thread on that logical processor.

When a logical processor goes idle (ie. no more work on the ready queue) then the list of scheduled DPCs is executed. A DPC will read the status of the interrupt and decide whether it was successful or not. If a read operation for example, the DPC will notify the thread that started the read and supply a pointer to the buffer where the data can be found. Once one DPC ends then the next in the scheduled list is run, until all DPCs have been executed.

This method of handling interrupts allows for interrupts to be serviced in a timely fashion but without adversely impacting the system throughput.
[/TLDR]

In your dump, argument 1 contains the value 0x1, this indicates that the BSOD happened because the total length of time that all DPCs took to execute exceeded a threshold. Even though DPCs run when a logical processor is idle, they must still run in a timely fashion. The DPC Watchdog checks that all DPCs run within this specified time limit, if this is exceeded then there must be a problem and the system BSODs.

Usually it's a tad tricky to discover which DPC(s) were running for too long, but in your case it's easy, because the long-running DPC is still on the call stack...
Code:
0: kd> knL
 # Child-SP          RetAddr               Call Site
00 fffff807`734a1e18 fffff807`6fc5bf02     nt!KeBugCheckEx
01 fffff807`734a1e20 fffff807`6fad2973     nt!KeAccumulateTicks+0x186d32
02 fffff807`734a1e80 fffff807`6fad245a     nt!KeClockInterruptNotify+0x453
03 fffff807`734a1f30 fffff807`6fa08a45     nt!HalpTimerClockIpiRoutine+0x1a
04 fffff807`734a1f60 fffff807`6fbfb26a     nt!KiCallInterruptServiceRoutine+0xa5
05 fffff807`734a1fb0 fffff807`6fbfba37     nt!KiInterruptSubDispatchNoLockNoEtw+0xfa
06 fffff807`7349a170 fffff807`6fabb8ab     nt!KiInterruptDispatchNoLockNoEtw+0x37
07 fffff807`7349a300 fffff807`87f7b9e3     nt!KzLowerIrql+0x1b
08 fffff807`7349a330 fffff807`7349a3f0     nvlddmkm+0xab9e3
09 fffff807`7349a338 00000000`00000010     0xfffff807`7349a3f0
0a fffff807`7349a340 ffff7475`16c9befb     0x10
0b fffff807`7349a348 fffff807`87f62c5d     0xffff7475`16c9befb
0c fffff807`7349a350 00000000`00000000     nvlddmkm+0x92c5d
The nvlddmkm.sys driver is the Nvidia graphics card driver.

The reason it ran for too long is either because there is a problem with the driver, or because there is a problem with the graphics card (it takes too long to respond to driver instructions for example).

If you've uninstalled all older drivers with DDU and installed the latest driver, and it still BSODs, then I would suggest using DDU again and install then next previous driver. If it still BSODs then try the next previous driver. If it BSODs on the latest three driver versions however then I would think you can discount a driver error.

It could possibly be a Windows issue, but I think that's unlikely. A clean install, as suggested, would eliminate that possibility however.

If it's not a driver issue and it's not a Windows issue then it's a hardware issue - most likely with the graphics card. And since it's a new graphics card I would immediately suspect it. Can you try the original graphics card (remember to use DDU to remove the driver for the 'new' card and install the right driver for the 'old' card) and see whether it still BSODs?
At the time of the dump i had already switched the graphics card to the nvidia card. The rest of the parts were the same. I changed the psu, case, cpu cooler afterwards, around the 20th. I will do as you said and remove the current drivers through ddu and download again. I'm wondering why the only minidump is for that date, when the pc has still been restarting recently. I also still have the 5700xt for now so if reinstalling the drivers for the nvidia card doesn't solve the issue I will try with the 5700xt. If the problem doesn't continue with the 5700xt and it is a hardware problem with the 3070, this should be covered under warranty correct?
 

Mark1999

Member
I checked the cable connections in the PC and found that the main 24-pin ATX connector on the motherboard was slightly loose so I reinserted the cable. After doing this and checking other cables, I started the PC, ran a GPU stress test, and launched some games without the system restarting. I will see how it goes for a few days and update you if the problem starts again.

I purchased the card brand new on ebay. I have the FE and noticed on the box it says the warranty is for 3 years.
 

SpyderTracks

We love you Ukraine
I purchased the card brand new on ebay. I have the FE and noticed on the box it says the warranty is for 3 years.
That's only if it's a valid seller. It's possible it's not registered with NVidia, you won't know until you try to claim.
 
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