Question around CPU speed and cooling.

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Hi all,

Firstly, I'm a complete tech noob so may not make sense!

I recently got a new PC I9 11900k with RTX 3070TI mainly for MSFS2020 but at certain points I am still getting low FPS (only in certain aircraft/location and I notice my CPU is only running @4.8GHz compared to the boost clock of 5.3GHz?

Is this normal?

Also, do you think my cooling is sufficient enough CoolerMaster MasterLiquid Lite 240 High Performance Liquid Cooler?

I have attached a few screenshots to show you.

Thanks in advance and apologis in advance if it makes no sense.
 

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SpyderTracks

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kevin.osullivanirl@gmail. said:
Hi all,

Firstly, I'm a complete tech noob so may not make sense!

I recently got a new PC I9 11900k with RTX 3070TI mainly for MSFS2020 but at certain points I am still getting low FPS (only in certain aircraft/location and I notice my CPU is only running @4.8GHz compared to the boost clock of 5.3GHz?

Is this normal?

Also, do you think my cooling is sufficient enough CoolerMaster MasterLiquid Lite 240 High Performance Liquid Cooler?

I have attached a few screenshots to show you.

Thanks in advance and apologis in advance if it makes no sense.
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Can you post your full specs from the order page?
 
K

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SpyderTracks said:
Can you post your full specs from the order page?
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Case
COOLERMASTER MASTERBOX MB530P ARGB GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i9 Eight-Core Processor i9-11900K (3.5GHz) 16MB Cache
Motherboard
Gigabyte Z590 AORUS Master (LGA1200, USB 3.2, PCIe 4.0, CrossFireX, Wi-Fi) - ARGB Ready
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3070 Ti - HDMI, DP
1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (2000 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
CoolerMaster MasterLiquid Lite 240 High Performance Liquid Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Professional 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [MUP-00003]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
2 - 3 DAY DELIVERY TO REPUBLIC OF IRELAND
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 16 to 19 working days
Promotional Item
Get Chivalry 2 & HITMAN 3 with select Intel® Core™ Processors
Welcome Book
PCSpecialist Welcome Book - United Kingdom & Republic of Ireland
Logo Branding
PCSpecialist Logo

Thanks for looking
 
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kevin.osullivanirl@gmail. said:
Case
COOLERMASTER MASTERBOX MB530P ARGB GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i9 Eight-Core Processor i9-11900K (3.5GHz) 16MB Cache
Motherboard
Gigabyte Z590 AORUS Master (LGA1200, USB 3.2, PCIe 4.0, CrossFireX, Wi-Fi) - ARGB Ready
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3070 Ti - HDMI, DP
1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (2000 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
CoolerMaster MasterLiquid Lite 240 High Performance Liquid Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Professional 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [MUP-00003]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
2 - 3 DAY DELIVERY TO REPUBLIC OF IRELAND
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 16 to 19 working days
Promotional Item
Get Chivalry 2 & HITMAN 3 with select Intel® Core™ Processors
Welcome Book
PCSpecialist Welcome Book - United Kingdom & Republic of Ireland
Logo Branding
PCSpecialist Logo

Thanks for looking
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What settings are you playing at?

A 3080 would just about manage to keep 60fps at full settings at 1080p

If you're playing at 1440p you'll have to adjust settings accordingly.
 
K

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SpyderTracks said:
What settings are you playing at?

A 3080 would just about manage to keep 60fps at full settings at 1080p

If you're playing at 1440p you'll have to adjust settings accordingly.
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I'm playing at 1080p. Mainly all on Ultra

At Heathrow for example in the 787 it can go as low as 15/20 fPs and its like a sideshow.

Should my CPU be running at 5.3ghz? Its only running at 4.8Ghz
 
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kevin.osullivanirl@gmail. said:
I'm playing at 1080p. Mainly all on Ultra

At Heathrow for example in the 787 it can go as low as 15/20 fPs and its like a sideshow.
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Yeah, that would be expected, the GPU isn't powerful enough to run it at max settings.

kevin.osullivanirl@gmail. said:
Should my CPU be running at 5.3ghz? Its only running at 4.8Ghz
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5.3 is the single core thermal velocity boost which is basically marketing nonsense and best ignored. The CPU will rarely reach this and when it does it will literally be for a second or two.

4.8 is the all core turbo boost which is what you'd expect it to be running under load.

www.tomshardware.com

What Is Intel Thermal Velocity Boost? CPUs With TVB Explained

Yes, Intel Thermal Velocity Boost is different from Intel Turbo Boost.
www.tomshardware.com www.tomshardware.com

Unfortunately Intel chips are really poor by todays standards, and most of the stated speeds are utter nonsense to try and hide the fact that they don't perform very well.
 
K

kevin.osullivanirl@gmail.

Member
SpyderTracks said:
Yeah, that would be expected, the GPU isn't powerful enough to run it at max settings.


5.3 is the single core thermal velocity boost which is basically marketing nonsense and best ignored. The CPU will rarely reach this and when it does it will literally be for a second or two.

4.8 is the all core turbo boost which is what you'd expect it to be running under load.

www.tomshardware.com

What Is Intel Thermal Velocity Boost? CPUs With TVB Explained

Yes, Intel Thermal Velocity Boost is different from Intel Turbo Boost.
www.tomshardware.com www.tomshardware.com

Unfortunately Intel chips are really poor by todays standards, and most of the stated speeds are utter nonsense to try and hide the fact that they don't perform very well.
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Thanks so you reckon the GPU is the bottleneck?

Also is my cooling sufficient?
 
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kevin.osullivanirl@gmail. said:
Thanks so you reckon the GPU is the bottleneck?
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As I’ve recently been educated on (thanks @SpyderTracks), it’s not so much that your GPU is a bottleneck, it’s that Flight Sim is a certified system killer. It’ll gobble up whatever graphics card you have, so there’s a requirement to have realistic expectations and to adjust your settings accordingly so that performance doesn’t tank. Have you tried playing around with graphics settings? There’s likely a few that you can drop from ultra down to high or medium that’ll have a big effect on the frame rates you’re seeing without too much loss in visual fidelity.
 
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kevin.osullivanirl@gmail. said:
Thanks so you reckon the GPU is the bottleneck?

Also is my cooling sufficient?
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Cooling is fine if its achieving 4.8 boost

There's no bottleneck, you just need to adjust settings.

MSFS is one of those games that isn't designed to be run at full settings yet, ot won't run at acceptable framerates for years to come until hardware is able to run it.

"Max settings" is a fallacy and kind of defeats the object of pc gaming. Loads of AAA games aren't able to be played at max settings for years after release.
 
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