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FerrariVie

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Results seems pretty disappointing for my brand new Recoil, considering my specs...and temperature seems very high too!
Maybe I got a very unlucky components...Shoud I have to contact PC Specialis support?
The overall results are not too bad, as according to 3Dmark the average of your build should be somewhere between 21k and 25k. However, your physics (CPU) score is particularly low and there is indeed something weird: your RAM frequencies. Don't think it is related to hardware and it is likely a configuration change that needs to be done, but I'm afraid I can't be of much help on how to solve this on your particular machine (I'm more knowledgeable on Clevo and AMD builds).

My advice is that you open a new thread asking for help on the "Technical Advice"area and mention that your 3Dmark results were showing RAM frequencies of 1333 Mhz, when it should have been 2666 (from what I can see on your signature):

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And by the way, can't understand why you cheaped out on the RAM frequencies. On such an expensive build, RAM frequencies should have been prioritized versus RAM size (choosing 32Gb 3200/3000 instead of 64Gb 2666 would have been a lot better imo). But that can also be discussed on the new thread that you're going to open.
 

SpyderTracks

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Undervolt (clock frequency capped at 1.320 MHz)

Results seems pretty disappointing for my brand new Recoil, considering my specs...and temperature seems very high too!
Maybe I got a very unlucky components...Shoud I have to contact PC Specialis support?
Best to start your own thread if you need support.
 

sck451

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The overall results are not too bad, as according to 3Dmark the average of your build should be somewhere between 21k and 25k. However, your physics (CPU) score is particularly low and there is indeed something weird: your RAM frequencies. Don't think it is related to hardware and it is likely a configuration change that needs to be done, but I'm afraid I can't be of much help on how to solve this on your particular machine (I'm more knowledgeable on Clevo and AMD builds).

My advice is that you open a new thread asking for help on the "Technical Advice"area and mention that your 3Dmark results were showing RAM frequencies of 1333 Mhz, when it should have been 2666 (from what I can see on your signature):

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And by the way, can't understand why you cheaped out on the RAM frequencies. On such an expensive build, RAM frequencies should have been prioritized versus RAM size (choosing 32Gb 3200/3000 instead of 64Gb 2666 would have been a lot better imo). But that can also be discussed on the new thread that you're going to open.
DDR means double-data rate. For every clock cycle, two data transfers are made. So memory running at 1330MHz actually does 2660 "megatransfers per second", which is what the rating in MHz normally refers to. I don't believe it's even possible to run DDR4 to give 1330 speeds as they are normally understood.
 

KriSta

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The overall results are not too bad, as according to 3Dmark the average of your build should be somewhere between 21k and 25k. However, your physics (CPU) score is particularly low and there is indeed something weird: your RAM frequencies. Don't think it is related to hardware and it is likely a configuration change that needs to be done, but I'm afraid I can't be of much help on how to solve this on your particular machine (I'm more knowledgeable on Clevo and AMD builds).

My advice is that you open a new thread asking for help on the "Technical Advice"area and mention that your 3Dmark results were showing RAM frequencies of 1333 Mhz, when it should have been 2666 (from what I can see on your signature):

View attachment 30645

And by the way, can't understand why you cheaped out on the RAM frequencies. On such an expensive build, RAM frequencies should have been prioritized versus RAM size (choosing 32Gb 3200/3000 instead of 64Gb 2666 would have been a lot better imo). But that can also be discussed on the new thread that you're going to open.
Seems low compared to my Valeon . I just ran a new test with updated drivers and full cooling and TGP at max 140w dGPU . Link below . Something is off with your laptop .

 

FerrariVie

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DDR means double-data rate. For every clock cycle, two data transfers are made. So memory running at 1330MHz actually does 2660 "megatransfers per second", which is what the rating in MHz normally refers to. I don't believe it's even possible to run DDR4 to give 1330 speeds as they are normally understood.
Not the case for 3Dmark, it shows the perceived DDR frequency (of the 2 data transfers). You can see that on everyone else's benchmarks (@KriSta above is an example).
 

solidus1983

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@FerrariVie New Benchmark runs of X170KM-G Recoil with my system specs. Full Suite.

OC'd and MAX fans.

TimeSpy Board for Spec: Result
TimeSpy Extreme Board for Spec: Result
FireStrike Normal Board for Spec: Result
FireStrike Extreme Board for Spec: Result
FireStrike Ultra Board for Spec: Result
Port Royal Board for Spec: Result

This is to all my runs also the signature set has been updated too.

Forgot to mention +65 on Core and + 242 on VRAM offset wise.
 

wwwmagnottait

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This is my updated result. No memory overclock or other.
it's pretty disappointing that my results with a 3080 16GB, 64BG 2666 RAM and an i7 are worste than systems with a 3070 8GB and 16 GB of RAM :cry:
 

Vergaro98

Bright Spark
it's pretty disappointing that my results with a 3080 16GB, 64BG 2666 RAM and an i7 are worste than systems with a 3070 8GB and 16 GB of RAM :cry:
That's not only a matter of specs. I'm using a cooling pad (one big 230mm fan), a specific set of parameters in control center (mainly concerned CPU and fans); also for this kind of test is more important the ram's speed and not the quantity.
Personally I think that the 5900hx is a better CPU than 11800h; Intel maybe has few fps more in some games but it's irrelevant.
Another thing I can see is that firestike shows also your i-gpu while in my test it shows only the 3070, so maybe you are in MSHybrid and not in d-gpu only (look at the mux switch in the control center); it can make a big difference.
 

wwwmagnottait

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My new recoil...


11900K was my original choice but they couldn't get it stable.

No overclock yet
is it a PC Specialist 15.6 recoil?! I've a brand new PC Specialist Recoil 15.6 with RTX 3080 16GB, but I see that your mobo is a CLEVO X170KMG, while mine is TongFang GM5TN8W...I'm a little bit puzzled :unsure:
 

wwwmagnottait

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That's not only a matter of specs. I'm using a cooling pad (one big 230mm fan), a specific set of parameters in control center (mainly concerned CPU and fans); also for this kind of test is more important the ram's speed and not the quantity.
Personally I think that the 5900hx is a better CPU than 11800h; Intel maybe has few fps more in some games but it's irrelevant.
Another thing I can see is that firestike shows also your i-gpu while in my test it shows only the 3070, so maybe you are in MSHybrid and not in d-gpu only (look at the mux switch in the control center); it can make a big difference.
mhhh...where's MUX switch in Control Center? :unsure:
 

Vergaro98

Bright Spark
is it a PC Specialist 15.6 recoil?! I've a brand new PC Specialist Recoil 15.6 with RTX 3080 16GB, but I see that your mobo is a CLEVO X170KMG, while mine is TongFang GM5TN8W...I'm a little bit puzzled :unsure:
It's a recoil 17.3", a clevo machine that is completely different from recoil 15.6".
mhhh...where's MUX switch in Control Center? :unsure:
In the general switches, it's the first thing that you see on the left in the home page. Open that you can find the mux switch at the bottom.
 

Tron1982

Rising Star
is it a PC Specialist 15.6 recoil?! I've a brand new PC Specialist Recoil 15.6 with RTX 3080 16GB, but I see that your mobo is a CLEVO X170KMG, while mine is TongFang GM5TN8W...I'm a little bit puzzled :unsure:
It's a recoil 17.3", a clevo machine that is completely different from recoil 15.6".

In the general switches, it's the first thing that you see on the left in the home page. Open that you can find the mux switch at the bottom.
So the 15" recoil is a tongfang chassis and the 17" recoil is a clevo chassis
And i want to add that the 17" clevo (the x170kmg) is a desktop replacement, so it's a "laptop" with a desktop cpu inside
So, it's normal to me that you can't compare your laptop to elweegie's (or even mine ^^)
 

Martinr36

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It's a recoil 17.3", a clevo machine that is completely different from recoil 15.6".

In the general switches, it's the first thing that you see on the left in the home page. Open that you can find the mux switch at the bottom.
Clevo laptops have a different control center which doesn't have such things
 

wwwmagnottait

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So the 15" recoil is a tongfang chassis and the 17" recoil is a clevo chassis
And i want to add that the 17" clevo (the x170kmg) is a desktop replacement, so it's a "laptop" with a desktop cpu inside
So, it's normal to me that you can't compare your laptop to elweegie's (or even mine ^^)
mhhh, but are they both sold by Pc Specialist?
 

FerrariVie

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Yes, I know 👌🏻 but @wwwmagnottait has a recoil 15.6". It's intel so maybe his CC is different than mine (but I doubt, the CC come directly from Uniwill and the Recoil 15.6" is an site the CC showed is the same on both).
The control center is usually quite different between tongfang and clevo's chassis (as @Martinr36 said), so even though I think both laptops should have a mux switch, they might be in different places (or even only in the BIOS instead of CC).
 
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Vergaro98

Bright Spark
The control center is usually quite different between tongfang and clevo's chassis (as @Martinr36 said), so even though I think both laptops should have a mux switch, they might be in different places (or even only in the BIOS instead of CC).
Yes, I know 😂 but the recoil 15.6" is a TongFang (like mine and @wwwmagnottait). He's complain because my model with 5900hx and 3070 had a better result on firestike despite he has 11800h and 3080 (so the firestike results should be higher than mine).
 

KriSta

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On my Valeon the MUX setting can be found in the " General Settings " as seen in this screenshot down at the bottom .
Using both the Radeon Vega 8 GPU and RTX 3070 makes the performance drop quite a bit in games and 3D benchmark , but will in return extend battery runtime .

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