Recoil 17 - Are you Kidding Me!!!!

SgtSprog

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For the past three years, I've delved deeply into building, modifying, overclocking, and undervolting PCs. While I dabbled in building a few PCs 20 years ago, I recently found myself with extra time on my hands, which led me to immerse myself in the tech sphere of PC building.

Unfortunately, this newfound interest coincided with the 2020/21 GPU shortage. Nevertheless, I managed to assemble a high-quality rig and discovered the joy of being an enthusiast modifier. It's somewhat ironic for someone of my age to revel in technicolour yodel RGB psychedelics!

Fast forward six years since my last work laptop purchase; I find myself fortunate enough to choose a work system. Three years ago, I upgraded my desktop, so I figured it was time to do the same for my laptop.

I want to emphasize that I possess extensive knowledge about purchasing PC parts and peripherals, having worked in IT-related industries for nearly 30 years. I take pride in conducting thorough research to achieve the best value when price-performance ratios are at their peak.

So, I embarked on a comprehensive quest for the best laptop for frame rate and performance. I examined offerings from various top manufacturers, initially leaning toward an RTX 4070 GPU within a £1500 budget. However, after assessing the demands of my UE5 projects on my primary desktop, I quickly realized the need for a more powerful setup.

My journey began with the MSI Vector GP68 RTX 4070 and subsequently explored every manufacturer and variant, ranging from the 4070 to the 4090. After three weeks of intense research on major brand manufacturers, I finally revisited PC Specialist.

Over the past nine years, I've relied on PC Specialist for most of my main PC systems and laptops, consistently receiving outstanding service, support, and products. Strangely, I didn't consider them initially for this laptop purchase, even though I can't pinpoint why. I had assumed that a mainstream brand would provide a different experience from the CLEVO-based desktop replacements I've been accustomed to from PC Specialist (not a criticism, just an observation of the past).

Eventually, I visited the PC Specialist website and stumbled upon the Recoil 17. Initially, I thought it resembled the "paving slabs" I associated with them in the past, but I couldn't have been more mistaken. After extensive research and configuration, I settled on a spec costing around £2700 (excluding the water cooler, which I plan to add later).

I want to emphasize that I'm not a PC Specialist fanboy; I've had both positive and negative experiences over the years. However, I keep returning because, in my humble opinion, they excel at what they do. Personally, I've had nothing but excellent products from them.

Once I placed my order, I watched more video reviews, particularly one that featured an XMG Neo 17, which is essentially the same unit but with a water cooler. At that point, I was confident that I had made one of the best laptop decisions of my life.

Upon its arrival, I eagerly unboxed it and was blown away – this laptop is an absolute beast! After examining eight reviews of laptops equipped with the 4090, it became clear that this laptop outperformed more expensive alternatives.

After fine-tuning my MSI Afterburner profiles with a combination of undervolting and mild overclocking, the results were impressive. I can't say for certain if I won the silicon lottery, but this laptop boosts like a monster, even without water cooling.

I prefer to keep my systems running cool rather than hot. Therefore, I maintain a consistent undervolt, aiming to keep GPU memory temperatures below 88°C during extended usage, with GPU temps maxing out at 70°C and hotspot temperatures not exceeding 76°C.

This laptop serves a dual purpose: high-intensity CAD work and gaming. It needs to be durable while delivering the necessary frame rates and resolution.

This review is longer than my usual ones, but I want to convey to anyone considering a high-end desktop replacement or those involved in CAD work – this laptop is the real deal. It's a rarity for me not to have any regrets or reservations about a purchase. The colour gamut is excellent, screen brightness hits around 400 nits, and the rest of the features are more than sufficient. While battery life isn't a priority for me, it's adequate.

In conclusion, I wholeheartedly recommend this laptop. It not only looks great but also performs incredibly well and has everything I need to enjoy gaming and make great work content.
 

SpyderTracks

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Im really pleased it’s worked out for you, of the reviews I saw, this model did outperform ever other one on the market generally, not just for GPU horsepower but also CPU although at the expense of noise out of the box.

Have you tried the watercooler yet? It really is designed to be used with that, IMHO it shouldn’t be an “optional extra”, but that’s another matter.

But you’ll find performance is far better with the watercooler fitted when you’re stationary at a desk.

The 13900HX although looking deceptively like a mobile processor naming, is exactly the same cpu as the 13900k, just with tweaked power limits, so this really is a desktop replacement (DTR) rather than a laptop.

Did you have any issues undervolting? Did Afterburner have any restrictions? I’d be really interested what undervolting and overclock thresholds you managed to set, that’s some pretty skilled optimisation on a laptop, nice job 👍
 
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Tron1982

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Did you have any issues undervolting? Did Afterburner have any restrictions? I’d be really interested what undervolting and overclock thresholds you managed to set, that’s some pretty skilled optimisation on a laptop, nice job 👍

Same ^^

I hope you'll enjoy it ^^
 
For the past three years, I've delved deeply into building, modifying, overclocking, and undervolting PCs. While I dabbled in building a few PCs 20 years ago, I recently found myself with extra time on my hands, which led me to immerse myself in the tech sphere of PC building.

Unfortunately, this newfound interest coincided with the 2020/21 GPU shortage. Nevertheless, I managed to assemble a high-quality rig and discovered the joy of being an enthusiast modifier. It's somewhat ironic for someone of my age to revel in technicolour yodel RGB psychedelics!

Fast forward six years since my last work laptop purchase; I find myself fortunate enough to choose a work system. Three years ago, I upgraded my desktop, so I figured it was time to do the same for my laptop.

I want to emphasize that I possess extensive knowledge about purchasing PC parts and peripherals, having worked in IT-related industries for nearly 30 years. I take pride in conducting thorough research to achieve the best value when price-performance ratios are at their peak.

So, I embarked on a comprehensive quest for the best laptop for frame rate and performance. I examined offerings from various top manufacturers, initially leaning toward an RTX 4070 GPU within a £1500 budget. However, after assessing the demands of my UE5 projects on my primary desktop, I quickly realized the need for a more powerful setup.

My journey began with the MSI Vector GP68 RTX 4070 and subsequently explored every manufacturer and variant, ranging from the 4070 to the 4090. After three weeks of intense research on major brand manufacturers, I finally revisited PC Specialist.

Over the past nine years, I've relied on PC Specialist for most of my main PC systems and laptops, consistently receiving outstanding service, support, and products. Strangely, I didn't consider them initially for this laptop purchase, even though I can't pinpoint why. I had assumed that a mainstream brand would provide a different experience from the CLEVO-based desktop replacements I've been accustomed to from PC Specialist (not a criticism, just an observation of the past).

Eventually, I visited the PC Specialist website and stumbled upon the Recoil 17. Initially, I thought it resembled the "paving slabs" I associated with them in the past, but I couldn't have been more mistaken. After extensive research and configuration, I settled on a spec costing around £2700 (excluding the water cooler, which I plan to add later).

I want to emphasize that I'm not a PC Specialist fanboy; I've had both positive and negative experiences over the years. However, I keep returning because, in my humble opinion, they excel at what they do. Personally, I've had nothing but excellent products from them.

Once I placed my order, I watched more video reviews, particularly one that featured an XMG Neo 17, which is essentially the same unit but with a water cooler. At that point, I was confident that I had made one of the best laptop decisions of my life.

Upon its arrival, I eagerly unboxed it and was blown away – this laptop is an absolute beast! After examining eight reviews of laptops equipped with the 4090, it became clear that this laptop outperformed more expensive alternatives.

After fine-tuning my MSI Afterburner profiles with a combination of undervolting and mild overclocking, the results were impressive. I can't say for certain if I won the silicon lottery, but this laptop boosts like a monster, even without water cooling.

I prefer to keep my systems running cool rather than hot. Therefore, I maintain a consistent undervolt, aiming to keep GPU memory temperatures below 88°C during extended usage, with GPU temps maxing out at 70°C and hotspot temperatures not exceeding 76°C.

This laptop serves a dual purpose: high-intensity CAD work and gaming. It needs to be durable while delivering the necessary frame rates and resolution.

This review is longer than my usual ones, but I want to convey to anyone considering a high-end desktop replacement or those involved in CAD work – this laptop is the real deal. It's a rarity for me not to have any regrets or reservations about a purchase. The colour gamut is excellent, screen brightness hits around 400 nits, and the rest of the features are more than sufficient. While battery life isn't a priority for me, it's adequate.

In conclusion, I wholeheartedly recommend this laptop. It not only looks great but also performs incredibly well and has everything I need to enjoy gaming and make great work content.
Thanks for the comprehensive review- I am new to PC/Laptop building and have been agonising over the spec for my new laptop for some time whilst saving funds/waiting out the covid rush on parts/laptops. I think im pretty much settled on getting a PC Specialist build because of the good reviews (and family experience) of both builds and customer service and it seems to me that a recoil 17" is probably going to offer me the best future proofing options in terms of room to upgrade down the line over the next few years as raising funds for a totally new build isn't going to be easy for me. I'm just trying to settle really on my final build and specs...

Im conscious of 2 factors really. Not wanting to overkill completely with a spec that far far exceeds my use case, but at the same time being very aware that the CPU and GPU are the 2 things that i'm not going to be able to upgrade down the line and may bottleneck me.

So i would love to know the exact spec you went with in the end if you don't mind sharing? Plus the kinds of games you are playing with your build. It might help me get a feel for what is the right fit for my own needs.

My own use case- First and foremost its a gaming laptop. Primarily to use for simulation type gaming, currently playing sims 4 with pretty much all packs plus CC & mods, but unable to play city skylines and planet zoo on my current micro pc with integrated graphics card that has been limping me through since my laptop died halfway through covid lockdown, so keen to get back on those. Looking to the future i really want to be playing city skylines 2 with decent level graphics settings, be set up well for any future iteration of the sims and to be free to explore other simulation style /sandbox games. Aside from the gaming for pleasure, i go pretty heavy on the media consumption, have lots of windows running at the same time etc, use the computer daily for managing complex medical support, care packages and medical technology/smart home technology. With a new actually functioning computer i would love to explore some video editing and creating digital content. I also have access to autocad as i have taken over responsibility for my Dad's library of work as a retired architect since he had a stroke so may need to access those plans from time to time or to do some simple mapping work, again something that at the moment i just haven't been capable of exploring with my current set up, but won't be hammering my laptop with autocad 9 to 5 every day like my Dad did either. Not sure how that compares to your laptop usage, but it sounded like there might be some similarities!

Would love to pick your brain/hear your thoughts and definitely keen to hear the exact build you went with if you don't mind sharing :) TIA!
 
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