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TonyCarter

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It would rule out some of the issues we've seen around confusing beep codes when troubleshooting...and mean no backdoors into your firmware.
 
SpyderTracks

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Personally I would avoid gigabytes this generation where possible, it’s a real shame because VRM design is amongst the best of all manufacturers, but the back door issue has lost them a lot of trust, plus the beep code duplications which is just a huge no no

The Tuf Gaming you e selected is a really good board
 
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felhfornow

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more questions (sorry for asking so many but i reckon you can't be too careful with a fancy box worth over a thousand quid)

- How much better is the 5000D airflow compared to the 4000D airflow? I understand that it's larger so better cooling, more 2.5" slots, and more room for future upgrades in general but is the extra cost worth it? i'd have to be a bit smarter about saving money but i don't mind if it makes a noteworthy improvement

- how long should i expect this pc in particular to last me? assume daily use of ~8-12 hours for programming & general work, watching shows/films, and gaming, and upgrading and replacing parts as needed. I keep on seeing anything from three to twenty years as to how long a pc can last, so a more specific idea would be nice

- was looking into upgrading parts and decided to check the motherboard and from what i understand NVMe is just a lot easier and more convenient to add/remove from a motherboard than SATA, but the motherboard i have selected only has 1 m2 port and 6 sata ports? what does that mean for future storage upgrades?

thanks all in advance
 
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felhfornow said:
- How much better is the 5000D airflow compared to the 4000D airflow? I understand that it's larger so better cooling, more 2.5" slots, and more room for future upgrades in general but is the extra cost worth it? i'd have to be a bit smarter about saving money but i don't mind if it makes a noteworthy improvement
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It does make quite a big difference to airflow, it's better designed say for high mid range to high end builds to accomodate the extra cooling required. I'd say if you were thinking about a substantial GPU upgrade in the future, then it may be worth it, but if you're sticking sort of up to 4070ti levels then perhaps not.

felhfornow said:
- how long should i expect this pc in particular to last me? assume daily use of ~8-12 hours for programming & general work, watching shows/films, and gaming, and upgrading and replacing parts as needed. I keep on seeing anything from three to twenty years as to how long a pc can last, so a more specific idea would be nice
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Any PC we design is with the lifespan of 7 - 10 years and above in mind (with expected GPU upgrades during that time)

felhfornow said:
- was looking into upgrading parts and decided to check the motherboard and from what i understand NVMe is just a lot easier and more convenient to add/remove from a motherboard than SATA, but the motherboard i have selected only has 1 m2 port and 6 sata ports? what does that mean for future storage upgrades?
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NVME is a fast solid state drive connector, it's for fast drives for particular uses like OS of large project storage. But for any data storage, you'd always use an old 7200rpm HDD on SATA as they don't die instantly like an SSD does, so you have time to swap out the drive and transfer the data.
 
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felhfornow

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im so used to bits of technology lasting maybe 2 years before giving up with the exception of my switch - up to a decade for only 1k is absolutely mental!

i'll stick to the 4000D airflow case for now
 
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felhfornow

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felhfornow said:
read in a different thread about gigabyte motherboards being a bit sketchy (https://shorturl.at/iuKPV), so i was wondering about the asus ones - from what i can see they're a little bit more expensive but not sure how theyd affect anything else. if i swapped out the gigabyte b550 gaming x v2 for the asus tuf gaming b550-plus would that cause me any issues beyond what the configurator says about the usb-c port? the slight difference in price isnt a problem

thanks all :)
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follow up on this - powerline adaptors only work via ethernet from what i understand but i need to boost the wifi for all devices in my room. should i get the powerline adapters anyway just for the computer and get something like this http://tinyurl.com/5kxmxkrp with it?
 
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felhfornow said:
follow up on this - powerline adaptors only work via ethernet from what i understand but i need to boost the wifi for all devices in my room. should i get the powerline adapters anyway just for the computer and get something like this http://tinyurl.com/5kxmxkrp with it?
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You can get power line adapters with built in WiFi, but they have to connect at the router end with LAN.

But I would never recommend power lines, they’re heavily reliant on the electrical design of your particular house plus the walls.

Power lines / repeaters and extenders are all outdated technology that Mesh has replaced, Mesh totally dominates any of them in any circumstance.

A decent Mesh setup would be SUBSTANTIALLY better

But all depends on your budget?
 
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felhfornow

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Since prices have dropped a bit and the 4000D disappeared from the config (I'm assuming its out of stock) I've messed with the spec a little bit to try and make the most out of it, but I'm very aware that I don't really know what should be prioritised so some extra opinions would be appreciated

Current spec (*4000D airflow switched to fractal pop tg silent) |
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/Xh05Q!PfGD/

Spec I've tried to improve |
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/Xh05Q!PfGD/
- went for more RAM because it just seemed obvious. i know 2x8gb would get me by but with how outrageous games are getting with spec requirements and all the computer work ill be doing i figured 2x16 would just ease future headaches
- more storage because it also seemed obvious. smaller faster one is for OS and all that stuff (think its called a boot drive), larger slower one is for everything else. planning on getting another p41+ 1TB ASAP
- thought of going for a better PSU but im already well above the required one and i dont want to push the budget that much, maybe I should focus on upgrading the processor cooler before the PSU and etc?

Thanks for all the help and advice, and sorry for all the questions - trying to most of the questions before I make the biggest purchase of my life so far. I do plan on actually buying at some point, CTF stuff is taking a million business years
 
Martinr36

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felhfornow said:
thought of going for a better PSU but im already well above the required one and i dont want to push the budget that much, maybe I should focus on upgrading the processor cooler before the PSU and etc?
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These days I wouldn't go under 850W, and would prefer 1000W to give good headroom, better to spend an extra £30 quid or so now than another £200+ in a couple of years, also if you get it done with the new build now, saves you the hassle later
 
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