spec check please - new x3d build

[skylineboy2002]

Case
FRACTAL DEFINE 7 XL BLACK QUIET TOWER CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 9 7900X 12 Core CPU (4.7GHz-5.6GHz/76MB CACHE/AM5)
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG CROSSHAIR X670E HERO (WIFI 6E, DDR5, PCIe 5.0) - RGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
64GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 6000MHz (4 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3070 - HDMI, DP, LHR
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SAMSUNG 990 PRO M.2, PCIe 4.0 NVMe (up to 7450MB/R, 6900MB/W)
1st Storage Drive
2TB Samsung 870 QVO 2.5" SSD, SATA 6Gb/s (up to 560MB/sR | 530MB/sW)
1st Storage Drive
8TB SEAGATE IRONWOLF PRO 3.5", 7200 RPM 256MB CACHE
Power Supply
CORSAIR 750W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Processor Cooling
CORSAIR iCUE H150i ELITE LCD Display RGB CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Extra Case Fans
1x 120mm Thermaltake TOUGHFAN 12 Case Fan
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
2 PORT (1 x TYPE A, 1 x TYPE C) USB 3.1 PCI-E CARD + STANDARD USB PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Professional 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [MUP-000

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Is there much difference in the new X3d chips? eg the 7900 x3d vs the plain 7900x? or would it be worth going somewhere inbetween - eg the 7950x

build would be photo editor, with some archiving / converting of old VHS /DV tapes (for a club im with, a one off project but expected to take a year)
and occasional casual gaming use.

thanks!

 

[skylineboy2002]

I think for your uses, the extra cost of an x3D chip probably isn't worth it, although I am not overly-knowledgeable on the x3D chips so I could be wrong.

What monitor will you be using for the gaming? Just wondering if you need the 3070 or whether a lower GPU will do.

What is your maximum budget? Just so we know what the limit is, though I expect we can get what you need below that

Also, could you please go back to the post to forum page (where you got that spec to copy/paste) and include the "unique configurable URL" from the bottom? Just makes it easier for us to go in and edit rather than starting from scratch. Thanks

hi thanks for the reply.

have admended the link.
i havent an idea on monitor yet, apart from 27-28" being the max i can have in the workstation area. - i was looking at 1440P ones (non curved). but i havent shopped for a monitor for some time so am a lil bit new to the new ones. (i have found out that a lot of people suggest displayport as the connection over hdmi though, so i'd go for this?)

 

[sck451]

Honestly, for your purposes I think you're waaaaay overspending. You could easily save over £1000 and still be spending more than you really need to. Here's what I'd consider a pretty high end build for photo editing, video encoding (you'll do this on the GPU, not the CPU, if you're sensible!) and light gaming. I think it would be hard to tell the difference in the tasks you're talking about.

Case
FRACTAL FOCUS 2 ARGB GAMING CASE (BLACK) Unless you really need the looks of the Define 7, I'd go for something much smaller and less expensive
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 7700X Eight Core CPU (4.5GHz-5.4GHz/40MB CACHE/AM5) Plenty of CPU for your purposes
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING B650-PLUS WIFI (DDR5, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s) Plenty of motherboard
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB DDR5 6000MHz (2 x 16GB) AMD Plenty of fast RAM
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3060 Ti - HDMI, DP, LHR Very similar performance to the 3070; cheaper
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SEAGATE FIRECUDA 530 GEN 4 PCIe NVMe (up to 7000MB/R, 3000MB/W) Fast boot drive
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB SOLIDIGM P41+ GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 4125MB/sR, 3325MB/sW) For games and projects
1st Storage Drive
8TB SEAGATE IRONWOLF PRO 3.5", 7200 RPM 256MB CACHE I don't like big hard drives in desktop setups because they're so hard to back up properly, but if it's what you need...
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1000W RMe SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead, 1.0mm Core)
Processor Cooling
CORSAIR iCUE H100i ELITE RGB High Performance CPU Cooler Plenty of cooling
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS You have loads of USB already
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00003] No need for Windows Professional except for very niche use cases
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Firefox™
Surge Protection
8 Socket 2m Surge Protector
Warranty
3 Year Platinum Warranty (3 Year Collect & Return, 3 Year Parts, 3 Year labour) Not honestly sure this is value, personally, but your choice!
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 12 to 15 working days
Price: £2,238.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am5-pc/6hsQXf6fPF/

 

[Scott]

Can you encode fully on the GPU now? Previously the encoding was limited to certain effects (blur etc, some motion transitions and the likes), the actual bulk of the work was on the CPU. I guess it depends on the software of course, I was always a Premiere guy.

 

[sck451]

Can you encode fully on the GPU now? Previously the encoding was limited to certain effects (blur etc, some motion transitions and the likes), the actual bulk of the work was on the CPU. I guess it depends on the software of course, I was always a Premiere guy.

Yes, Premiere will encode either entirely with the hardware encoder (Nvenc) or in software (i.e. with the CPU). Handbrake will do the same; I'm not sure about Resolve. Some effects will also use the GPU more generally as well. But there shouldn't be any effects here in any case because it's just encoding video files from external media.

And if there is a need for the CPU to work, the 7700X is hardly a multicore slouch in any case!

 

[Scott]

Yes, Premiere will encode either entirely with the hardware encoder (Nvenc) or in software (i.e. with the CPU). Handbrake will do the same; I'm not sure about Resolve. Some effects will also use the GPU more generally as well. But there shouldn't be any effects here in any case because it's just encoding video files from external media.

And if there is a need for the CPU to work, the 7700X is hardly a multicore slouch in any case!

That's great to know, I'll definitely be giving that a spin

 

[skylineboy2002]

i have just looked at my saved spec. (to order imminently).
its a asus x670 board. with 7900x / 7950x (unsure yet)
with 2x32gb 6000 ddr5. (unsure on 64 or 32 yet, saving price vs future proof)


when i go past this, i get an error message "The memory configuration that you have selected is not currently compatible with ASUS motherboards. Please amend to a Gigabyte motherboard or amend your memory choice."
anyone know why this is?
it WILL allow 64gb in the form of 4x16s of 6000s ddr5 though??
any reasons why this is? and also in general is it better to have 64 of 5200 (in 2x32s) or 64 of 6000s in 4x16s?
t.i.a guys.

 

[sck451]

I can't make the configurator give this message. Perhaps you could post what you're trying to build? If you can't get to "post to forum", perhaps even a screenshot of the first part of the config tool...

 

[RichLan564]

Yes, Premiere will encode either entirely with the hardware encoder (Nvenc) or in software (i.e. with the CPU). Handbrake will do the same; I'm not sure about Resolve. Some effects will also use the GPU more generally as well. But there shouldn't be any effects here in any case because it's just encoding video files from external media.

And if there is a need for the CPU to work, the 7700X is hardly a multicore slouch in any case!

Resolve can use either to encode, its faster with GPU, presuming it's a decent one of course but my 3070Ti has no issues.

 

[skylineboy2002]

i have just looked at my saved spec. (to order imminently).
its a asus x670 board. with 7900x / 7950x (unsure yet)
with 2x32gb 6000 ddr5. (unsure on 64 or 32 yet, saving price vs future proof)


when i go past this, i get an error message "The memory configuration that you have selected is not currently compatible with ASUS motherboards. Please amend to a Gigabyte motherboard or amend your memory choice."
anyone know why this is?
it WILL allow 64gb in the form of 4x16s of 6000s ddr5 though??
any reasons why this is? and also in general is it better to have 64 of 5200 (in 2x32s) or 64 of 6000s in 4x16s?
t.i.a guys.

screenshots - as i say... 2x32s, in 5200, are fine? or 4x16s at 6000 are fine?

 

[sck451]

Well, the easier option is not getting 64GB of RAM. For what you're describing, you just don't need it. If you have complex video timelines, sure, it can be necessary. But for your purposes it just isn't. You will see precisely no benefit from going from 32GB to 64GB.

AMD definitely likes the DDR5-6000 RAM. Indeed, I wouldn't buy anything else.

I'd suggest something along the following lines:

Case
CORSAIR 4000D AIRFLOW TEMPERED GLASS GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 7700X Eight Core CPU (4.5GHz-5.4GHz/40MB CACHE/AM5)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING B650-PLUS WIFI (DDR5, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s)
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB DDR5 6000MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3060 Ti - HDMI, DP, LHR
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SEAGATE FIRECUDA 530 GEN 4 PCIe NVMe (up to 7000MB/R, 3000MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB SOLIDIGM P41+ GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 4125MB/sR, 3325MB/sW)
1st Storage Drive
8TB SEAGATE IRONWOLF PRO 3.5", 7200 RPM 256MB CACHE
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1000W RMx SERIES™ - MODULAR 80 PLUS GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead, 1.0mm Core)
Processor Cooling
CORSAIR iCUE H100i ELITE RGB High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
ONBOARD 2.5Gbe LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00003]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Firefox™
Surge Protection
8 Socket 2m Surge Protector
Warranty
3 Year Platinum Warranty (3 Year Collect & Return, 3 Year Parts, 3 Year labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 8 to 10 working days
Price: £2,219.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am5-pc/fX!gppTa3M/

 

[skylineboy2002]

thanks for the reccomendations -
1. 1000w PSU ?? any benefit? when going to "proceed" on order, PCS say 520w is around the calculations inc an overhead?
is it a case of, more the better, even though ill never pull that amount? so that its coasting / not breaking a sweat.

2. so re the ram, less would be better, IF its FASTER? so as i say 64 of 5200s wouldnt be as good as 32 of 6000?
i was thinking of some future proofing, because i MAY end up with some video editing alongside the photo editing i will be doing. as in at the moment what i have means i CANT do some stuff, where a decent spec would allow me to expand things i do, eg bit of gaming and video stuff

 

[Steveyg]

1. 1000w PSU ?? any benefit? when going to "proceed" on order, PCS say 520w is around the calculations inc an overhead?

2. so re the ram, less would be better, IF its FASTER? so as i say 64 of 5200s wouldnt be as good as 32 of 6000?

1. Exactly, Overhead so it runs more efficiently and quietly plus all the room you'll ever need to make upgrades in future. PSU should last the entire lifespan of a machine and not be a limiter if selected properly

2. Fast RAM is everything with Ryzen, you want the fastest RAM possible to allow the CPU to operate at it's best and highest speeds. 6000Mhz seems to be the sweat spot right now. You can always add more RAM if you need it but RAM is one of those things that you either need it or you don't, having more does not increase performance it just means you're spending money on something that is literally gathering dust. Only increase RAM capacity when you start to run out

 

[skylineboy2002]

1. Exactly, Overhead so it runs more efficiently and quietly plus all the room you'll ever need to make upgrades in future. PSU should last the entire lifespan of a machine and not be a limiter if selected properly

2. Fast RAM is everything with Ryzen, you want the fastest RAM possible to allow the CPU to operate at it's best and highest speeds. 6000Mhz seems to be the sweat spot right now. You can always add more RAM if you need it but RAM is one of those things that you either need it or you don't, having more does not increase performance it just means you're spending money on something that is literally gathering dust. Only increase RAM capacity when you start to run out

thanks for your thought out reply, appreciate it!