The Evolution of my PC Specialist computer - standard build to water cooled monster

[tom_gr7]

I probably stay away from it, I am having enough health issues right now

It's actually quite simple dude, worth looking into. The Haf X has alot of watercooling potential.

Good news Tom. It sounds like you are moving along with this quicker than you had anticipated. Great news on the GPU.

thanks I took my 580 heatsink off, I took a few pictures will upload and edit them in. But there was alot, id say far too much. This card was rma'd to palit twice I would have thought they would have gave done fresh repaste. Anyway, lol this is kinda funny. I went to repaste with Noctua Nt-H1 (non conductive, which is a must for gpu's) messed the first go up, cleaned it off... then oohh noooees ran out of paste -.- hahah

nevermind lol.

 

[tom_gr7]

So, here is my plan

280 rad up top, push pull. (30mm thick)
140mm rad rear exhaust, push pull. (30mm thick)
240mm rad bottom intake, push pull, (60mm thick)

I was going to go for the 360mm rad up top, but i would lose the top two drive bays. And the 280 and 140 offers increased surface area.

I plan on a pump and res combo to keep it simple.

But Im not sure whether to use 45 or 90 fittings, to keep the tubes straight - i read straight and short is better for temps. OR to do everything with the tubes and simple compression fittings.

 

[halox]

Are you keeping your radiators inside the case? I use 45 and 90 fittings if I need to. It may slow the flow but it is negligible and keeps in neater.

That's my water / water Heat Exchanger ready. I have made a reservoir for testing from the misses plastic bath smelly stuff box. I am hoping to get my pump and fittings tomorrow and then I'll give it a few tests. I need copper tubing but grudge paying the £30 for testing with. When needs must I suppose.

 

[tom_gr7]

Are you keeping your radiators inside the case? I use 45 and 90 fittings if I need to. It may slow the flow but it is negligible and keeps in neater.

yeah the rads inside the case. I didnt know it slowed the flow, hmm. I guess i can decide it nearer the time.

That's my water / water Heat Exchanger ready. I have made a reservoir for testing from the misses plastic bath smelly stuff box. I am hoping to get my pump and fittings tomorrow and then I'll give it a few tests. I need copper tubing but grudge paying the £30 for testing with. When needs must I suppose.

pics

 

[halox]

I have had a look at your diagram. I know you will probably change it loads of time before you decide finally. Might I suggest though the black Ice single flow radiators. Your top radiator would benefit from this and possibly the rear. The radiator ports are at opposite ends making for a neater loop. here is the 360 version. I use the 120 as my rear rad. You will see it in the first photo I posted.

http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss149/halox206/HWL-GTS-360-XFLOW_zps3a07a220.jpg

Also when you are designing your loop remember when you are bleeding it you want to be able to get as much air out as possible. If you are pumping against gravity through the CPU and GPU blocks they are harder to clear of air due to the nature of the designs. Radiators are notoriously difficult. I pump up through the CPU and GPU blocks, that way they bleed themselves. Then down through the rads. Just some other thoughts to ponder. It is not a necessity but you ant to make it as easy as poss to bleed. Also as you are going to use a 5" drive bay you have to remember you cannot rotate your computer to remove the air. I would consider a stand alone pump and res if I were you. Some good ones on the market. Again this makes it easy to bleed but does not look so nice depending on what you pick. Check out item number 231017114531 on ebay. Looks nice!!!!

EDIT: - Here is a better photo of the single stream rad. Makes it neat and save me from putting hose in front of radiators blocking the much needed air flow.



Here is the reservoir, cheap hose being used now and the expensive stuff for later. The heat exchanger is the silver thing with the 4 ports.



Here is a wee video of me messing with the CPU and GPU benchmarks for a youtube video showing what temperatures to expect when watercooling.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZOBNrh260M

 

[tom_gr7]

thanks for the tip on the res/pump. I did look at cylinders but i have no idea what im looking for lol. I checked out that ebay is that a pump and a res? something like that would be ideal.

hmm, just got told on Overclock.net that the 140mm will give me problems and it doesn't fit very well. back to the drawing board

 

[halox]

thanks for the tip on the res/pump. I did look at cylinders but i have no idea what im looking for lol. I checked out that ebay is that a pump and a res? something like that would be ideal.

hmm, just got told on Overclock.net that the 140mm will give me problems and it doesn't fit very well. back to the drawing board

Yeah, its a pump as res with a 500 l/h (very good) output. Cheap too. Only thing is you need to wait about a month on it coming. Sys cooling also have 300 l/h, 450 l/h and 750 l/h pumps and res combined. I use the 300 l/h version. The SC-30A. Don't get bogged down with the pump output though. The main thing is of course in part output but also head as this gives a better idea of pressure performance. The head does not matter in a sealed system. But the pressure matters when pumping through tight water blocks, lengths of hose and through tight radiators. If a pump pumps at 300 l/h with a 1.5m head and the 500 l/h pump has a 1.5m head too then you will receive the same cooling performance.

The reason being the water heats up in the water blocks and cools in the radiators. If it is going faster through a water block then it won't heat up as much that first visit but it also wont cool down as much either on its rush through the radiator. It goes thought the system faster that's all. The slower water heats up more in the blocks and cools down more in the rads. I can turn my pump from 700rpm up to 2500rpm and it makes no difference in the temperature of the water.

 

[tom_gr7]

Yeah i would like a cylinder type res with a pump would be ideal. Its just mounting it somewhere. my case is massive, but space is lost by the sill drive bays/cages.

Do you know of any way you can fit a cylinder/pump on the rear of a rad? say on the bottom rad to a fitting to have it sit on that?

yeah, the guy on overclock.net confirmed the 140 wont fit in my case, but i could get a 120mm 45mm thick rad in there. So might go for that instead.

 

[halox]

Yeah i would like a cylinder type res with a pump would be ideal. Its just mounting it somewhere. my case is massive, but space is lost by the sill drive bays/cages.

Do you know of any way you can fit a cylinder/pump on the rear of a rad? say on the bottom rad to a fitting to have it sit on that?

yeah, the guy on overclock.net confirmed the 140 wont fit in my case, but i could get a 120mm 45mm thick rad in there. So might go for that instead.

I am sure there will be a way (like that attitude?). You might be able to use something like this if you go for a cylindrical res / pump combo.

 

[tom_gr7]

bingo, got a good option.

but i cant post the links lol. So names will have to do.

EK-D5 X-RES 140 CSQ - Acetal
EK Water Blocks EK-UNI Holder D5
Aqua Computer Laing D5 Pump with Tachosignal

I wouldnt mind getting a larger tube for it though.

 

[halox]

bingo, got a good option.

but i cant post the links lol. So names will have to do.

EK-D5 X-RES 140 CSQ - Acetal
EK Water Blocks EK-UNI Holder D5
Aqua Computer Laing D5 Pump with Tachosignal

I wouldn't mind getting a larger tube for it though.

Yeah that's a nice set up. Will cost a pretty penny though. I changed my mind on my test res set up and changed for fittings. This way, all going well I wont need to change it again.

 

[tom_gr7]

yeah it should be quite smart dude, will hopefully be able to get it started in September.

So, whats the plan with the res then?

 

[keynes]

yeah it should be quite smart dude, will hopefully be able to get it started in September.

Why not now? Hope you don't change your mind by September

 

[halox]

yeah it should be quite smart dude, will hopefully be able to get it started in September.

So, whats the plan with the res then?

The reservoir will be directly before the pump. After the pump I'll put the copper pipe then the heat exchanger back to the reservoir. It will allow for expansion as its copper I'm using there will be some as the temperatures change. I have still to finalize a few things but hope to get started by the end of this month.

 

[tom_gr7]

Why not now? Hope you don't change your mind by September

lol i'm away most of this month that and money.... unless MR Keynes you would like to bankroll roll my little project? sorry, sponsor...

The reservoir will be directly before the pump. After the pump I'll put the copper pipe then the heat exchanger back to the reservoir. It will allow for expansion as its copper I'm using there will be some as the temperatures change. I have still to finalize a few things but hope to get started by the end of this month.

they you will bury it in the soil?

 

[keynes]

lol i'm away most of this month that and money.... unless MR Keynes you would like to bankroll roll my little project? sorry, sponsor...

Of course, PayPal as usual?

The reservoir will be directly before the pump. After the pump I'll put the copper pipe then the heat exchanger back to the reservoir. It will allow for expansion as its copper I'm using there will be some as the temperatures change. I have still to finalize a few things but hope to get started by the end of this month.

Do you this for living? Sounds very complicated but really impressed by your rig and future plans.

 

[halox]

lol i'm away most of this month that and money.... unless MR Keynes you would like to bankroll roll my little project? sorry, sponsor...



they you will bury it in the soil?

Yes with some tweaks too. I'll make a wooden frame to support the copper and add aluminium sheet under it to dissipate the heat through. That's the plan anyway!

 

[halox]

Do you this for living? Sounds very complicated but really impressed by your rig and future plans.

My 1st degree and trade is in Mechanical Engineering and a 2nd trade and degree in Electrical Engineering. Since then I have had numerous jobs all in Engineering and picked up a lot on that journey. I am now a Consultant and visit clients every day to advise them and assist them in all things related to Engineering of which 50% includes the legal side of Engineering. Hence the reason I can turn my hand to pretty much anything. My hobby is computers. I am not your usual computer buff as at weekends I chase the rain and go down rivers in my kayak, off waterfalls and down gorges.

Here is one from this year on the river North Esk in Angus, Scotland: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNsiA65gL48

I enjoy making videos both to pass on the knowledge I have learned to help others and also just for fun. Oh and just recently to boost my viewing figures on youtube (my son and I have a bet).

 

[tom_gr7]

Of course, PayPal as usual?

lol, sure. Its probably going to cost me best part of 500quid altogether. But you could do it much much cheaper, if you got second hand parts/ebay or you got lower end products. This is the res that I'm going to get, but with this attachment, basically a larger tube. That unit will be fitted with this pump, kinda fits in the bottom of the res unit. You can get much cheaper units. I just want it to look nice and cool the cpu/gpu extremely well.

Yes with some tweaks too. I'll make a wooden frame to support the copper and add aluminium sheet under it to dissipate the heat through. That's the plan anyway!

sounds good dude, and this will eventually be hooked up to your PC?

 

[tom_gr7]

halox, I dont suppose you know of the difference between distilled and de ionised water? which is best for cooling?