Confused About Case Fans + CPU Cooler

[EeveeonE]

I'm finding it difficult to figure out which cases include more fans.

I'm looking at the

PCS PRISM-X RGB MID TOWER CASE​

Which says 'Fan optional'
But the image very clearly shows fans, and other descriptions for other cases, say 'Fan included'
Do these cases come with fans or not? I'm so confused.
I'm also looking at this:

PCS P209 RGB MID TOWER CASE​

Since it looks nice, and it's cheaper. I also need a case that is 46cm in height due to a... very very bad desk. It has a bay area for the desktop PC, and the weight would probably crack the glass if it goes on top.

On top of that confusion, the additional fan cases part doesn't provide options for additional front mounted fans.
Just wondering, and hopefully the answers here will help other buyers.

Also, what is a

FROSTFLOW 150 CPU COOLER​

And where are the temperature benchmarks for it? I did a Google search, the only thing that comes up is the water coolers.



My build includes a AMD Ryzen 3900x, B550 Plus Asus Prime Motherboard, RTX 3080, 4x8GB Ram (3600 Mhz), Samsung 970 500GB M.2 SSD. If I'm missing something or there's something better I could get, I'd like to know.

 

[Gavras]

Yes a link to your build.

Also, have to ask is this actually a serious post and not a Wah?

if serious please post up the configuration link for your build.

How to Post Your Specification to the Forum - Check this Spec

Just a first note, if you've been provided this link, don't amend your first post as it won't update the queue, please add an additional comment to the thread, that way it will go back to the front of the queue. Otherwise we don't know it's been updated. When creating a forum post looking to...

www.pcspecialist.co.uk

its a closed loop liquid system.

 

[Martinr36]

Yes a link to your build.

Also, have to ask is this actually a serious post and not a Wah?

if serious please post up the configuration link for your build.

How to Post Your Specification to the Forum - Check this Spec

Just a first note, if you've been provided this link, don't amend your first post as it won't update the queue, please add an additional comment to the thread, that way it will go back to the front of the queue. Otherwise we don't know it's been updated. When creating a forum post looking to...

www.pcspecialist.co.uk

its a closed loop liquid system.

@Gavras , this sounds like a wind up to me, so much so that i checked my calendar to make sure it wasn't april 1st

 

[EeveeonE]

Yes a link to your build.

Also, have to ask is this actually a serious post and not a Wah?

if serious please post up the configuration link for your build.

How to Post Your Specification to the Forum - Check this Spec

Just a first note, if you've been provided this link, don't amend your first post as it won't update the queue, please add an additional comment to the thread, that way it will go back to the front of the queue. Otherwise we don't know it's been updated. When creating a forum post looking to...

www.pcspecialist.co.uk

its a closed loop liquid system.

Sorry, I don't really know how to communicate. That's autism. Can't handle it, don't keep it.

I just wanted an answer to the question of how to tell if a case comes with fans or not.

And what this cooler is and where the benchmarks are for it.

 

[steaky360]

Sorry, I don't really know how to communicate. That's autism. Can't handle it, don't keep it.

I just wanted an answer to the question of how to tell if a case comes with fans or not.

And what this cooler is and where the benchmarks are for it.

Hi @EeveeonE - its much easier for people to answer your questions if we have the whole picture of what you're looking to purchase. Without it, we can't really tell you much specifically as there are a lot of factors which will affect the performance of your system.

If you take a look at the link @Gavras posted it shows you how to post your specification to the forum. Once you've done that it'll be much easier for us to assist .

I note in your OP that you listed out some of your components and then asked if there's stuff we would recommend you change - we need to know the full specs for that.

From your original post, the PC will come with sufficient fans to make it run in a stable condition. The frostflow 150 is an AIO cooler similar to the Corsair H100 etc. as for benchmarks... well I've never seen benchmarks for coolers before (although I've never really looked either ), but again, this is why we're asking for you to post the full specification its just much easier to talk shop when we have all the info.

 

[ubuysa]

Not only do we need to know the build(s) that you're considering, we also need to know what the PC will be used for in order to advise you whether the cooling/case you choose is suitable. A maximum budget will help too so that people aren't suggesting components you can't afford.

PC Specialist don't sell kits of parts so we cannot comment on parts on their own, we can only advise on a full build.

Please be sure to include the unique URL when you post your build here. Thanks.

 

[Gavras]

The reason for my original comment is the following and actually using a cheap case.

Quote My build includes a AMD Ryzen 3900x, B550 Plus Asus Prime Motherboard, RTX 3080, 4x8GB Ram (3600 Mhz), Samsung 970 500GB M.2 SSD. If I'm missing something or there's something better I could get, I'd like to know.

there is no way I could consider the above tech (and heat generated) in a £37 case.

with cheap cases, invariably comes cheap cooling.

Then throw in a £32 liquid cooler to the mix.

 

[EeveeonE]

Can we please stick to the topic?
I'm now looking at a

NZXT H511​

which comes with two fans. If that isn't optimal, how do I add a fan? I had a bunch of people say that cases are built for optimal airflow, otherwise they wouldn't be there.

 

[Cobblers]

If a case has spare slots for fans then I would always put the additionals in there whether needed or not.

More air flow has to be better surely?

 

[steaky360]

Can we please stick to the topic?
I'm now looking at a

NZXT H511​

which comes with two fans. If that isn't optimal, how do I add a fan? I had a bunch of people say that cases are built for optimal airflow, otherwise they wouldn't be there.

@EeveeonE I've asked previously and I'll ask again - post the FULL specification that you are looking for including the configurable link if you would like further advice.

 

[EeveeonE]

@EeveeonE I've asked previously and I'll ask again - post the FULL specification that you are looking for including the configurable link if you would like further advice.

I did, and it got a negative response, and it required me to change the entire spec. My question however isn't about my build, it's about the website configuration (Adding a front fan) And there's nowhere else to ask this question.

 

[Gavras]

If a case has spare slots for fans then I would always put the additionals in there whether needed or not.

More air flow has to be better surely?

Nope, thermals do not work like that.

A well designed and manufactured case with its standard fans will provide good air flow.

When you populate any spare slots, it’s important to look if an intake or exhaust is required, also what components you have fitted.

some cases (a lot) have spare fan slots to cater for different orientation of motherboards, components and for radiators or liquid coolers etc.

Simply shoving max fans in can severely disrupt the natural thermal air flow, where the fans move smooth airflow to the exhaust point(s).

Shove in one blowing inwards and you disrupt that circulation.

 

[scarpa1]

Can we please stick to the topic?
I'm now looking at a

NZXT H511​

which comes with two fans. If that isn't optimal, how do I add a fan? I had a bunch of people say that cases are built for optimal airflow, otherwise they wouldn't be there.

It comes with two fans, looks like they are, one on the rear and one on the roof.

If you play around with the configurator and select various fan options , once you click proceed with your order it will tell you if you have too many extra fans.

For example, i just tried adding 5 extra fans to this case, but after clicking proceed the configurator says, this case supports 4 extra cases fans, so then you can go back and change your selection.

PCS will put the extra fans you select in the best location inside the case and if you post your full order spec in the forum the more in the know posters will tell you if everything looks good, fan wise and other parts too.

 

[steaky360]

I did, and it got a negative response, and it required me to change the entire spec. My question however isn't about my build, it's about the website configuration (Adding a front fan) And there's nowhere else to ask this question.

Sticking to one thread would've been advantageous and prevented this as I'd have easily seen you'd posted your spec...

Cases don't know what components are going to be installed in them, so generally manufacturers are putting fans in places so their cases are aesthetically pleasing. Typically there will be fans on the front of the case and sometimes a fan in the rear (often as an exhaust). Not all cases do, my case for example (Corsair 500D) did not come with an exhaust fan so I installed one myself (I should add, I very much doubt it made any appreciable difference to my PC).

As far as I'm aware, PCS won't "optomise" air flow, they'll install all your components and then test the system, if it runs without overheating that is their testing complete. If you've added extra fans, they'll install them at the builders discretion, I very much doubt they'll change the fan orientation after build to check an alternative and I don't believe they tend to mess with fan profiles (I could be wrong here though, you'd need to check with PCS to be sure). You will also need to contact PCS directly if you want them to put a fan in a specific place for you.

I've no idea if two fans are optimal or not for your build, it depends on what you're putting in the case. Hence repeatedly asking about your specs. From the other thread, I still have no idea what specs you've landed on, so my question (of what specs you're choosing) is still valid in my eyes.

 

[ubuysa]

@EeveeonE I'm going to lock this thread because you have a another thread running in Check This Spec discussing your build. That's where these questions should be handled.