5900x Cooler Question

[Sword]

Hello all, apologies if this is the wrong section for this question. 😅

I recently ordered a build from PC Specialist with the 5900x CPU inside it, my original plan has been to have a basic Hyper 212 Black as the CPU cooler choice to act as a temporary cooler until I could replace it with a Noctua NH-D15 for silence purposes. My issue is that I've seen many on the forum saying that air cooling will not be enough for the 5900x/5950x and upwards? I would replace the Hyper 212 in the order with the H115i/H150i Elite Capellix/Pro XT, but many reviews and comments I've seen online claim that these have fans and pumps that are very loud, with some low humming & buzzing, this may interfere with my plan of streaming as I would not want the PC to be audible in the background nor would I like to hear it too much without headphones on. Can anyone with these coolers tell me their experience and how loud they are?

Many thanks. 😁

 

[NoddyPirate]

Hello all, apologies if this is the wrong section for this question. 😅

I recently ordered a build from PC Specialist with the 5900x CPU inside it, my original plan has been to have a basic Hyper 212 Black as the CPU cooler choice to act as a temporary cooler until I could replace it with a Noctua NH-D15 for silence purposes. My issue is that I've seen many on the forum saying that air cooling will not be enough for the 5900x/5950x and upwards? I would replace the Hyper 212 in the order with the H115i/H150i Elite Capellix/Pro XT, but many reviews and comments I've seen online claim that these have fans and pumps that are very loud, with some low humming & buzzing, this may interfere with my plan of streaming as I would not want the PC to be audible in the background nor would I like to hear it too much without headphones on. Can anyone with these coolers tell me their experience and how loud they are?

Many thanks. 😁

Yes an air cooler on that CPU would be like buying a Ferrari only to put Olive Oil in it and push it down the street. (And I don't mean Popeye's girlfriend). AIO all the way if you want to have it operate correctly and get your moneys worth.

I'm not an AIO guru but I predict that there will be at least five more responses here from AIO owners in the next 30 minutes.

 

[AleTax]

Yes an air cooler on that CPU would be like buying a Ferrari only to put Olive Oil in it and push it down the street. (And I don't mean Popeye's girlfriend). AIO all the way if you want to have it operate correctly and get your moneys worth.

I'm not an AIO guru but I predict that there will be at least five more responses here from AIO owners in the next 30 minutes.

AIO owner over here. Altough I have a friend that runs the 5950X with a Noctua NH-D15 air cooler and has around 75 degrees on full load, I wouldn't take the chance by risking it and I'd go AIO. Plus it has better looks since it's not something huge like air coolers, it can have some nice RGB (if you like that) and they are overall safe

 

[Ash_]

A high end Noctua is apparently good enough for the 5900X from what i have seen, assuming you have a good case.

I think the corsair ones are sort of luck of the draw, my pump makes a really annoying high pitched buzzing, although it is not particularly loud - but when i try and work in silence, it’s not great.

 

[AgentCooper]

I personally wouldn’t air cool any chip eight core and upwards. On a monster like the 5900X you’ll really want something along the lines of a H115i, as the cores take a hammering even the best air cooler will not be enough to help them reach peak boost.

I have the H100i in my system, the ML fans are unnoticeable and the pump is all but silent. I’d be happy to put my seal of approval on the Corsair products 👍

 

[AleTax]

A high end Noctua is apparently good enough for the 5900X from what i have seen, assuming you have a good case.

I think the corsair ones are sort of luck of the draw, my pump makes a really annoying high pitched buzzing, although it is not particularly loud - but when i try and work in silence, it’s not great.

I have that high pitch sound as well when on "balanced" or "extreme" but I don't think there is anything faulty with it doing that

 

[Ash_]

I have that high pitch sound as well when on "balanced" or "extreme" but I don't think there is anything faulty with it doing that

I was going to RMA it and then the replacement did it too, so i just accepted it. Strangely... the extreme setting is more pleasant than the quiet (really high pitched).

 

[Sword]

Thank you all for the replies, it does seem to be a luck of the draw type of deal....

How long do Corsair AIOs typically last? I plan to not interfere with my build for the next 5 years or so.

Lastly, if there are any issues with the pumps being highly pitched, do PC Specialist offer a way to fix it? Such as a replacement AIO or something similar?

 

[AleTax]

I was going to RMA it and then the replacement did it too, so i just accepted it. Strangely... the extreme setting is more pleasant than the quiet (really high pitched).

The pump is Coolit and not Asetek. Coolit pumps are known to be more noisy. Nothing to worry about

 

[AleTax]

Thank you all for the replies, it does seem to be a luck of the draw type of deal....

How long do Corsair AIOs typically last? I plan to not interfere with my build for the next 5 years or so.

Lastly, if there are any issues with the pumps being highly pitched, do PC Specialist offer a way to fix it? Such as a replacement AIO or something similar?

When you buy the Elite Capellix, Corsair gives you 5 years of warranty on it

 

[AgentCooper]

I was going to RMA it and then the replacement did it too, so i just accepted it. Strangely... the extreme setting is more pleasant than the quiet (really high pitched).

Incidentally, after we talked about this the other day I put my pump on extreme mode ran Furmark for ten minutes and I’m wasn’t getting any high pitched noises. So as you say, it may be the luck of the draw on the QA front.

 

[AleTax]

Incidentally, after we talked about this the other day I put my pump on extreme mode ran Furmark for ten minutes and I’m wasn’t getting any high pitched noises. So as you say, it may be the luck of the draw on the QA front.

Maybe your noise was covered by fans spinning at high rate cause of FurMark. Try putting "extreme" on the pump while in idle, you'll hear the high pitch noise. But as I said, it's cause it has a Coolit pump and they are well known to produce more sound but they aren't faulty at all. Asetek makes more quiet pumps

 

[Ash_]

Incidentally, after we talked about this the other day I put my pump on extreme mode ran Furmark for ten minutes and I’m wasn’t getting any high pitched noises. So as you say, it may be the luck of the draw on the QA front.

I may just be able to hear higher frequencies 🤣.

With a headset on or even just with my fans up, i can’t hear it. But if someone is going for a full silent build, Noctua has to be king of the hill. Although, by the time you buy the exhaust fans, the Noctua + 3 fans is probably just as much as a H150i elite capellix, maybe even more.

 

[AgentCooper]

Maybe your noise was covered by fans spinning at high rate cause of FurMark. Try putting "extreme" on the pump while in idle, you'll hear the high pitch noise. But as I said, it's cause it has a Coolit pump and they are well known to produce more sound but they aren't faulty at all. Asetek makes more quiet pumps

I don’t think it was that, because I was messing about for a while before and after the torture test and still couldn’t detect any noise. I even got Mrs Cooper to stand with her head near to the PC because she’s younger (better pitch detection) and hasn’t been playing loud guitar for twenty years. She didn’t pick out any unusual noise either. Strange...

 

[AleTax]

I don’t think it was that, because I was messing about for a while before and after the torture test and still couldn’t detect any noise. I even got Mrs Cooper to stand with her head near to the PC because she’s younger (better pitch detection) and hasn’t been playing loud guitar for twenty years. She didn’t pick out any unusual noise either. Strange...

Mhm. Can you try doing the test I said? I’m pretty sure you’ll hear the noise as it’s a common thing with pumps made by Coolit. The web is all over it as well

 

[NoddyPirate]

A high end Noctua is apparently good enough for the 5900X from what i have seen, assuming you have a good case.

I think the corsair ones are sort of luck of the draw, my pump makes a really annoying high pitched buzzing, although it is not particularly loud - but when i try and work in silence, it’s not great.

I think it is fair to say that there are plenty of air cooler options out there that will 'work' with a 5800X, 5900X or 5950X - meaning they will be capable of keeping the chip at a safe temperature - but my 'getting your moneys worth' comment was trying to get at the fact that the cooler these chips run, the better they perform. You give up boost MHz and duration the warmer and warmer they get.

Spending the sort of money that Ryzen 8, 12 or 16 core chips demand, only to avoid giving them an environment that doesn't help them perform as well as they might - is where my pushing a Ferrari anaolgy comes from. Yes you have a Ferrari - it cost you a lot - but you're not allowing it to show what it's capable of.

Not the best anaolgy I agree, but still......

(EDIT - just to point out that even my lowly 5600X suffers clear and defineable (is that a word?) losses with my air cooler, despite never seeing more than high 60's degrees at worst....)

 

[AgentCooper]

Mhm. Can you try doing the test I said? I’m pretty sure you’ll hear the noise as it’s a common thing with pumps made by Coolit. The web is all over it as well

Just put all fans on zero RPM, pump on extreme... no high pitch noise.

 

[Ash_]

I think it is fair to say that there are plenty of air cooler options out there that will 'work' with a 5800X, 5900X or 5950X - meaning they will be capable of keeping the chip at a safe temperature - but my 'getting your moneys worth' comment was trying to get at the fact that the cooler these chips run, the better they perform. You give up boost MHz and duration the warmer and warmer they get.

Spending the sort of money that Ryzen 8, 12 or 16 core chips demand, only to avoid giving them an environment that doesn't help them perform as well as they might - is where my pushing a Ferrari anaolgy comes from. Yes you have a Ferrari - it cost you a lot - but you're not allowing it to show what it's capable of.

Not the best anaolgy I agree, but still......

(EDIT - just to point out that even my lowly 5600X suffers clear and defineable (is that a word?) losses with my air cooler, despite never seeing more than high 60's degrees at worst....)

People are reporting 68 degrees under load with a 5900X and that Noctua. My 5800X with a H150i is 65 i believe and on Corsairs own website they show a similar stat

 

[NoddyPirate]

People are reporting 68 degrees under load with a 5900X and that Noctua. My 5800X with a H150i is 65 i believe and on Corsairs own website they show a similar stat

That's really good in fariness.

For my little thing, all data I can gather suggests that my stock chip at full load sits about 150-200 MHz slower than it would with an average AIO keeping it 10 degrees cooler or better.

So while those temperatures are really good they would still be better with an AIO and performance would be better as a result also.

So I will still win!

 

[AleTax]

Just put all fans on zero RPM, pump on extreme... no high pitch noise.

So it made no noise at all? Lucky you. The web is full of it and as I said Coolit pumps are noisier than Asetek