AMD 5800x3D CPU first benchmarks

AgentCooper

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It's the power requirements also, if we judge by the difference from the 12700k to the 12900k which just added a few e cores.
This is what I’m concerned about. Long gone are the days where a 750w PSU would be all you’d ever need, we are fast approaching a world where you’ll require a nuclear powered unit to go all out. In these times of global warming and rising energy costs they need to start considering how to raise the stakes whilst also keeping the power draw at a respectable level.
 

JUNI0R

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This is what I’m concerned about. Long gone are the days where a 750w PSU would be all you’d ever need, we are fast approaching a world where you’ll need a nuclear powered unit to go all out. In these times of global warming and rising energy costs they need to start considering how to raise the stakes whilst also keeping the power draw at a respectable level.
I've got a friend that has a theory about this that sounds like it could plausable. These massive companies are making these parts so damn powerful that they use a tonne of electricity, so much so that we can begin to reconsider justifying the pure cost of powering these systems. But, people still want to game right? GeForce Now. You get to game on a 3080, for what, like £10 a month? Bargain! The tech needs some work I feel, but, everything is going subscription based now so it really wouldn't surprise me- there must be a reason why so many companies do it 😂
 

SpyderTracks

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I've got a friend that has a theory about this that sounds like it could plausable. These massive companies are making these parts so damn powerful that they use a tonne of electricity, so much so that we can begin to reconsider justifying the pure cost of powering these systems. But, people still want to game right? GeForce Now. You get to game on a 3080, for what, like £10 a month? Bargain! The tech needs some work I feel, but, everything is going subscription based now so it really wouldn't surprise me- there must be a reason why so many companies do it 😂
This is so true, have you used GeForce Now? It's remarkably good, that's on my measly 50mb connection, I was amazed at how good it was, although only played for a couple of days and I can't even remember what game it was as it was a while ago. But you can play your own library for free.

GeForce Now seems to be the one to beat of them all, from what I've read it sounds like Google Stadia may be a no starter, they may be bowing out and wrapping it up.

I'm such a control freak though, my server is currently purely for my own media streaming, because in the past I've had it where streaming services have lost the license for artists or movies I've wanted as they tend to only relicense those that gain hits (to some degree). As such, I'm really anal about having my own control over my own content.

It's costly though, just in storage drives. Factor in increasing fuel costs as well aside from green concerns and it does start to make you wonder.
 

JUNI0R

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This is so true, have you used GeForce Now? It's remarkably good
I haven't, no. I had a friend that used the XBOX cloud gaming stuff- apparently it was fine for little indie games but terrible for the more demanding stuff. That's where my comment of it needs some work came from. I should give it a go really.
It's remarkably good, that's on my measly 50mb connection
"Measly 50mb" *Cries in 35mb*
from what I've read it sounds like Google Stadia may be a no starter, they may be bowing out and wrapping it up.
Yeah, I thought that Stadia was pretty much curtains
 

SpyderTracks

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This is a really good game benchmark comparison, they’ve done it with high speed ddr5 on intel and 3800mhz ddr4 on AMD which is how extreme gamers would configure. They do end up pretty much neck to neck

 

Scott

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I thinks it won't be able to beat. I9 12900k in rendering...

Not surprising though, given the different price and class of the chips. The 5800X3D isn't a 12900K level chip or competitor. It just happens to beat it as the gaming king now.
 

Aza

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Sorry if its already been covered, but what would you recommend when comparing the 5800X and 5800X3D?

I mainly aim at gaming, WoW, Baldurs Gate 3, Dune Spice Wars, other blizzard games like Diablo 3 (and looking at the new Diablo Immortal) DeathStranding and similar type games. Tried cyberpunk but holding off for a better GPU as still with a 2000 Series atm but looking to upgrade that too

Also do stuff like video editing with Premiere Pro but this is more hobby, not professional use.
I use my system to also do work stuff but thats mostly word/excel/powerpoint so nothing massively heavy, but want to bear in mind that multimedia flexibility

Im looking at upgrades (have posted here https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/forums/threads/looking-at-upgrade-options.88850/#post-675013 )
 

MrWilson

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So the 5800X3D has quite a limited niche. It is there to give the best gaming performance out of any Ryzen CPU, which it has achieved. As a result of the extra cache it has lower clock speeds and as a result it performs slightly worse than the 5800X, and worse than the 12700K in a lot of productivity tasks.
Also to note with gaming performance, you are very unlikely to be CPU limited while gaming. The benchmarks used to compare the CPUs use 6900XT and 3090/ti cards to maximise GPU performance and even here you only see significant performance increases at 1080p, at 1440p you're barely beating margin of error.
IMO, the only use case for a 5800X3D is for someone with an AM4 motherboard already, who wants to game at high refresh 1080p (and can actually discern the frame rates that high) and has a 3080/6800XT tier or higher GPU.
It's a good CPU, and the 3D technology is exciting for Zen 4, but realistically, I think it has a very niche use case, even more so amongst PCS Customers.
 

Aza

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So the 5800X3D has quite a limited niche. It is there to give the best gaming performance out of any Ryzen CPU, which it has achieved. As a result of the extra cache it has lower clock speeds and as a result it performs slightly worse than the 5800X, and worse than the 12700K in a lot of productivity tasks.
Also to note with gaming performance, you are very unlikely to be CPU limited while gaming. The benchmarks used to compare the CPUs use 6900XT and 3090/ti cards to maximise GPU performance and even here you only see significant performance increases at 1080p, at 1440p you're barely beating margin of error.
IMO, the only use case for a 5800X3D is for someone with an AM4 motherboard already, who wants to game at high refresh 1080p (and can actually discern the frame rates that high) and has a 3080/6800XT tier or higher GPU.
It's a good CPU, and the 3D technology is exciting for Zen 4, but realistically, I think it has a very niche use case, even more so amongst PCS Customers.
Awesome. Also seen a post from Spyder about the 7000 series being due autumn time... so its probably going to be a better idea to ignore upgrading to a 5000 series and wait see what happens nearer christmas.
 

sck451

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Awesome. Also seen a post from Spyder about the 7000 series being due autumn time... so its probably going to be a better idea to ignore upgrading to a 5000 series and wait see what happens nearer christmas.
The last couple of years make that a little tricky as a recommendation, because who knows what will happen with stock and pricing. But yes, if you can wait, I would. The offerings from AMD and Nvidia promise to be very exciting, and Intel may even come out with good things (CPUs or even graphics cards, maybe!).
 
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