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Help will this pc be ok ?

kezy87

Member
hello :)
I have just ordered this all-in-one computer, I am worrying as I don't know a huge amount about computers and I am worrying that this is not going to be ok. I work as an illustrator so use photoshop sometimes, but nothing too demanding just cleaning up scanned artwork etc using a graphics tablet like a Wacom, and then my boyfriend plays strategy games so need so of mid graphics I guess he never places anything too graphically demanding. Do you guys think this spec is going to be ok and last a good few years too as a good allrounder?
Thank you :)


Chassis & DisplayVanGuard Series: 27" Non-Touch Screen (1920 x 1080)
Processor (CPU)Intel® Core™ i7 Six Core Processor i7-8700 (3.2GHz) 12MB Cache
MotherboardVanGuard H310i-P: Mini-ITX, LGA1151, USB 3.1, SATA 6GBs
Memory (RAM)16GB Corsair 2133MHz SODIMM DDR4 (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card6GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2060 - HDMI, DP - VR Ready!
1st Storage Drive1TB Samsung 860 QVO 2.5" SSD, SATA 6Gb/s (upto 550MB/sR | 520MB/sW)
1st M.2 SSD Drive512GB INTEL® 660p M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (upto 1500MB/sR | 1000MB/sW)
Memory Card ReaderIntegrated SD Memory Card Reader
Power Cable1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Sound Card2 Channel High Definition Audio + MIC/Headphone Jack
Wireless/Wired Networking10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT + WIRELESS 802.11 A/B/G/N/AC
USB/Thunderbolt Options4 x USB 3.0 PORTS + 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS AS STANDARD
Operating SystemGenuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System LanguageUnited Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery MediaWindows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office SoftwareFREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-VirusNO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
BrowserGoogle Chrome™
Speakers2 x INTEGRATED SPEAKERS
Warranty3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
DeliveryTIMED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND - MON-FRI (BEFORE 2PM)
Build TimeFAST TRACK 3 WORKING DAY DISPATCH
Welcome BookPCSpecialist Welcome Book - United Kingdom & Republic of Ireland
 

Mustafo95

Silver Level Poster
Oh you're more than fine. Don't sweat it. CPU is elite, RAM is enough, if it's not you'll absolutely know when that time comes. GPU is also in that sweet spot where you get the most bang for your buck. Better GPU's would be a little better, but way more expensive and weaker GPUs wouldn't have the same horsepower.
Storage drives are also elite too. The ancient wisdom, is "chain will be as strong as its weakest link" and you've all your bases covered.
 

kezy87

Member
Oh you're more than fine. Don't sweat it. CPU is elite, RAM is enough, if it's not you'll absolutely know when that time comes. GPU is also in that sweet spot where you get the most bang for your buck. Better GPU's would be a little better, but way more expensive and weaker GPUs wouldn't have the same horsepower.
Storage drives are also elite too. The ancient wisdom, is "chain will be as strong as its weakest link" and you've all your bases covered.
Thank you !! was contemplating cancelling the order as I was seeing other posts about all-in-ones being a bit rubbish so was worrying! can you upgrade the computer then? I have seen some say yes and some say no that was another worry don't want to spend so much on a computer and then I cant upgrade if I need to like the RAM as you said
thanks again :)
 

SpyderTracks

Huntsman
Moderator
Thank you !! was contemplating cancelling the order as I was seeing other posts about all-in-ones being a bit rubbish so was worrying! can you upgrade the computer then? I have seen some say yes and some say no that was another worry don't want to spend so much on a computer and then I cant upgrade if I need to like the RAM as you said
thanks again :)
It won't be particularly upgradeable, that's the issue with the all in ones. They're very expensive for the components you select and you'd get more from a normal PC and high end monitor in the long term.

Personally I wouldn't suggest an all in one.
 

kezy87

Member
It won't be particularly upgradeable, that's the issue with the all in ones. They're very expensive for the components you select and you'd get more from a normal PC and high end monitor in the long term.

Personally I wouldn't suggest an all in one.
if you don't mined me asking what would you suggest? my budget is about 1500 for pc and screen, and I need mid graphics ability, to be able to run photoshop and do minor editing, I work as an illustrator and work from home thankyou :)
 

SpyderTracks

Huntsman
Moderator
if you don't mined me asking what would you suggest? my budget is about 1500 for pc and screen, and I need mid graphics ability, to be able to run photoshop and do minor editing, I work as an illustrator and work from home thankyou :)
Is the graphics card just for gaming or when you say "minor editing", does that use hardware acceleration?

The all in one also only had a 1080p 27" monitor which would be less than optimal for graphical work as the pixel density would be very poor. You really want a 4k or at least 1440p panel of around 28" for your kind of work
 

kezy87

Member
Is the graphics card just for gaming or when you say "minor editing", does that use hardware acceleration?

The all in one also only had a 1080p 27" monitor which would be less than optimal for graphical work as the pixel density would be very poor. You really want a 4k or at least 1440p panel of around 28" for your kind of work
no it does not use hardware acceleration, feeling a bit worried now as I chatted to a woman about the pc at PCS and she said it would be good for what I want it for been debating for days so went and ordered it and then saw that there was a forum! I have ordered it now and paid for the fast track as my laptop that I use now had been really playing up and I need a computer for work :( looked in to cancel but I lose the money for the fast track and delivery
 

SpyderTracks

Huntsman
Moderator
no it does not use hardware acceleration, feeling a bit worried now as I chatted to a woman about the pc at PCS and she said it would be good for what I want it for been debating for days so went and ordered it and then saw that there was a forum! I have ordered it now and paid for the fast track as my laptop that I use now had been really playing up and I need a computer for work :( looked in to cancel but I lose the money for the fast track and delivery
What stage is the PC in and when did you place the order?

If it's not in building stage then you won't lose any money I shouldn't imagine.
 

SpyderTracks

Huntsman
Moderator
About an hour ago the payment has gone through it says processing
Ok, I wouldn't worry. They don't work on bank holidays, so they wouldn't start building it until tomorrow. If you call them first thing and explain that you'd like to cancel to put in a different order, I'm certain they wouldn't charge you anything.

I'm just drawing up a suggested spec, I'll post reviews and benchmarks so you can see the real world benefits.
 

kezy87

Member
Ok, I wouldn't worry. They don't work on bank holidays, so they wouldn't start building it until tomorrow. If you call them first thing and explain that you'd like to cancel to put in a different order, I'm certain they wouldn't charge you anything.

I'm just drawing up a suggested spec, I'll post reviews and benchmarks so you can see the real world benefits.
fab thank you so much for your help, yeah I guess if I phone them with what I want it's a just a swap hopefully that will be ok. I have 1,500 but that got to include the screen and fast track delivery. ( there is a bit of wiggle room cash wise but not much )
 

SpyderTracks

Huntsman
Moderator
As an example alternative:

Case
InWIN 101 MID TOWER GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 2700 Eight Core CPU (3.2GHz-4.1GHz/20MB CACHE/AM4) Much better price to performance benefit over the expensive intels

World War Z & Division 2: Gold Edition FREE w/ select AMD Ryzen CPUs!
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG STRIX X470-F GAMING (DDR4, USB 3.1, 6Gb/s) - RGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 2933MHz ~ (2 x 8GB) Much higher bandwidth memory, especially important for image processing, as well as beneficial for gaming
Graphics Card

6GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1660 Ti - HDMI, DP - GeForce GTX VR Ready! Has around the same performance as the RTX2060, just without Ray Tracing which doesn't really work on anything less than a 2080ti atm
1st Storage Drive

1TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 64MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB WD Black™ SN750 M.2 NVMe SSD (up to 3470MB/s R | 2600MB/s W) Much faster OS drive
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive

NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 550W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET Semi Modular which means improved airflow in the case (leads to better cooling) and less noise
Power Cable

1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
CoolerMaster Hyper 212X (120mm) Fan CPU Cooler Black Edition Excellent cooler that runs a lot quieter than standard
Thermal Paste

STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
WIRELESS 802.11N 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Google Chrome™
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 6 to 8 working days
Price: £1,295.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-pc/3KKAnnBMZu/

The real benefit of a build like this is that it's fully upgradeable as you go on. The core components of CPU, Motherboard and RAM will last a good long while (5 years at least), and graphics and hard drives can be swapped or added as you like. The all in ones are fairly limited because of cooling and power supply and of course, space.

The other benefit of this build is that you can get a vastly superior monitor which would benefit both for gaming and graphics work.

At the left over budget (£200), I'd personally suggest the following AOC IPS 1440p Freesync at 75Hz:


Freesync means that it synchronises it's refresh rate with the graphics card, which for gaming makes it a much smoother experience.
It's IPS which means much more vivid colours which is important for graphics work.
The real benefit is that it's 1440p, so you get a lot more real estate than the 1080p on the all in one.

If the gaming side isn't so utterly important then I'd suggest going for a 4k panel for the graphical work something like the Samsung U28D590D which is 28" TN panel:

 

kezy87

Member
As an example alternative:

Case
InWIN 101 MID TOWER GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 2700 Eight Core CPU (3.2GHz-4.1GHz/20MB CACHE/AM4) Much better price to performance benefit over the expensive intels

World War Z & Division 2: Gold Edition FREE w/ select AMD Ryzen CPUs!
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG STRIX X470-F GAMING (DDR4, USB 3.1, 6Gb/s) - RGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 2933MHz ~ (2 x 8GB) Much higher bandwidth memory, especially important for image processing, as well as beneficial for gaming
Graphics Card

6GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1660 Ti - HDMI, DP - GeForce GTX VR Ready! Has around the same performance as the RTX2060, just without Ray Tracing which doesn't really work on anything less than a 2080ti atm
1st Storage Drive

1TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 64MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB WD Black™ SN750 M.2 NVMe SSD (up to 3470MB/s R | 2600MB/s W) Much faster OS drive
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive

NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 550W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET Semi Modular which means improved airflow in the case (leads to better cooling) and less noise
Power Cable

1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
CoolerMaster Hyper 212X (120mm) Fan CPU Cooler Black Edition Excellent cooler that runs a lot quieter than standard
Thermal Paste

STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
WIRELESS 802.11N 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Google Chrome™
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 6 to 8 working days
Price: £1,295.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-pc/3KKAnnBMZu/

The real benefit of a build like this is that it's fully upgradeable as you go on. The core components of CPU, Motherboard and RAM will last a good long while (5 years at least), and graphics and hard drives can be swapped or added as you like. The all in ones are fairly limited because of cooling and power supply and of course, space.

The other benefit of this build is that you can get a vastly superior monitor which would benefit both for gaming and graphics work.

At the left over budget (£200), I'd personally suggest the following AOC IPS 1440p Freesync at 75Hz:


Freesync means that it synchronises it's refresh rate with the graphics card, which for gaming makes it a much smoother experience.
It's IPS which means much more vivid colours which is important for graphics work.
The real benefit is that it's 1440p, so you get a lot more real estate than the 1080p on the all in one.

If the gaming side isn't so utterly important then I'd suggest going for a 4k panel for the graphical work something like the Samsung U28D590D which is 28" TN panel:

thank you so much !! I read the that 1TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 64MB CACHE was a bit unreliable dater wise that's why I went for Samsung in the other one ? and you definitely think this is a better set up? I could phone first thing in the morning see what they say :/
 

kezy87

Member
thank you so much !! I read the that 1TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 64MB CACHE was a bit unreliable dater wise that's why I went for Samsung in the other one ? and you definitely think this is a better set up? I could phone first thing in the morning see what they say :/
and that build would last a good few years i don't have the cash to be updating all the time :(
 

SpyderTracks

Huntsman
Moderator
thank you so much !! I read the that 1TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 64MB CACHE was a bit unreliable dater wise that's why I went for Samsung in the other one ? and you definitely think this is a better set up? I could phone first thing in the morning see what they say :/
The samsung you selected was an SSD (solid state). This one's a standard HDD (spinning disk). Usually when working with drives you'll have an SSD as the drive for the OS and programs, and then just a standard HDD for data storage. There's no particular benefit to having an SSD for storage and it costs a lot more. The Barracuda's are excellent drives though.

I think it's a far superior setup for your requirements and in the long term.

and that build would last a good few years i don't have the cash to be updating all the time :(
I would say you wouldn't notice any deterioration over say around 5 years for the base configuration. (I'm still using my base configuration from 2013 quite happily). The only thing I'd say you may want to upgrade sooner would be the graphics card for gaming, perhaps in 3 years time or so.
 

kezy87

Member
The samsung you selected was an SSD (solid state). This one's a standard HDD (spinning disk). Usually when working with drives you'll have an SSD as the drive for the OS and programs, and then just a standard HDD for data storage. There's no particular benefit to having an SSD for storage and it costs a lot more. The Barracuda's are excellent drives though.

I think it's a far superior setup for your requirements and in the long term.



I would say you wouldn't notice any deterioration over say around 5 years for the base configuration. (I'm still using my base configuration from 2013 quite happily). The only thing I'd say you may want to upgrade sooner would be the graphics card for gaming, perhaps in 3 years time or so.
Thank you very much for your help!! I will phone them in the morning and see what they say !!
thank you again
 

Oussebon

Multiverse Poster
Freesync means that it synchronises it's refresh rate with the graphics card, which for gaming makes it a much smoother experience.
It's IPS which means much more vivid colours which is important for graphics work.
The real benefit is that it's 1440p, so you get a lot more real estate than the 1080p on the all in one.
I actually got one of these lately. Big upgrade in colours over my budget 1080p IPS panel from 2012

If fiddling with Freesync to get it playing nice on that monitor with an Nvidia GPU, this thread is very helpful:
https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/ag7tnu
And this post in particular: https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/ag7tnu/_/ejkddp0
Pendulum helps you assess if it's playing nice: https://www.nvidia.co.uk/coolstuff/demos
 

LuisBlackshear

New member
hello :)
I have just ordered this all-in-one computer, I am worrying as I don't know a huge amount about computers and I am worrying that this is not going to be ok. I work as an illustrator so use photoshop sometimes, but nothing too demanding just cleaning up scanned artwork etc using a graphics tablet like a Wacom, and then my boyfriend plays strategy games so need so of mid graphics I guess he never places anything too graphically demanding. Do you guys think this spec is going to be ok and last a good few years too as a good allrounder?
Thank you :)


Chassis & DisplayVanGuard Series: 27" Non-Touch Screen (1920 x 1080)
Processor (CPU)Intel® Core™ i7 Six Core Processor i7-8700 (3.2GHz) 12MB Cache
MotherboardVanGuard H310i-P: Mini-ITX, LGA1151, USB 3.1, SATA 6GBs
Memory (RAM)16GB Corsair 2133MHz SODIMM DDR4 (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card6GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2060 - HDMI, DP - VR Ready!
1st Storage Drive1TB Samsung 860 QVO 2.5" SSD, SATA 6Gb/s (upto 550MB/sR | 520MB/sW)
1st M.2 SSD Drive512GB INTEL® 660p M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (upto 1500MB/sR | 1000MB/sW)
Memory Card ReaderIntegrated SD Memory Card Reader
Power Cable1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Sound Card2 Channel High Definition Audio + MIC/Headphone Jack
Wireless/Wired Networking10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT + WIRELESS 802.11 A/B/G/N/AC
USB/Thunderbolt Options4 x USB 3.0 PORTS + 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS AS STANDARD
Operating SystemGenuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System LanguageUnited Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery MediaWindows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office SoftwareFREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-VirusNO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
BrowserGoogle Chrome™
Speakers2 x INTEGRATED SPEAKERS
Warranty3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
DeliveryTIMED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND - MON-FRI (BEFORE 2PM)
Build TimeFAST TRACK 3 WORKING DAY DISPATCH
Welcome BookPCSpecialist Welcome Book - United Kingdom & Republic of Ireland
Whats the Power Supply of this build?
With the specs you listed i think is good enough for both gaming and working but i would recommend add more ram is still doable for your budget.
 
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