My appalling experience with PC Specialist.

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Unhumanje

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I started looking for a mid-range gaming laptop which I could also use for schoolwork (I'm a Computing Science major) around the start of August, and after a lot of browsing I came to the conclusion that PCS was the place to order from - the laptops were configurable, of good quality, relatively cheap and PCS was a respected company (at least from what I had heard). I had some reservations about the laptop I was about to order (Optimus V) as it was known to have issues with the fan, not to mention the concerns a lot of people had voiced about the tiny PSU, so I decided to talk to PCS about it. I was told the PSU wouldn't be an issue, and that 'a BIOS update is currently coming out very shortly'. After researching the topic myself I decided to finally order. This is where it all went downhill.

I didn't want to drop extra money on fast track if I didn't have to so I asked if it would be ready by Sept. 03 (Date of order: Aug. 08) and they said it shouldn't be a problem. The days went by and my laptop was spending an enormous amount of time in pre-production so I decided to ask what was going on.
I was eventually told that the RAM I had ordered wasn't compatible with that laptop (although it had been in the configurator for over a month and nobody seemed to notice) so they had to replace it with the only alternative - something worse/cheaper. I was told there wasn't a price difference in the components (which I really don't understand) so I wasn't reimbursed. I thought to myself it wasn't that big a deal and moved on.
A few days later, with the laptop still being in pre-production, I e-mailed them again to see what's going on and I was told the following: "I have placed this on an internal priority for you so with any luck we will get it there within plenty of time for you." - something I thought was very amazing at the time, since they were in no way obliged to meet my arbitrary deadline.
Sept 03 grew closer every day and it became apparent to me that the laptop wouldn't be finished in time, so I told them to just ship it to me on Sept 13, the date on which I arrived in the UK.

The laptop finally arrived on Sept 17. and everything seemed to be in order. Nothing was damaged, it worked great, everything was perfect, or so I thought.
One of the first things I noticed was the fan going into vaccuum cleaner mode for no apparent reason, something that should have been fixed over a month ago. Again I thought to myself it's not really their fault, since it's Sager who's responsible for coming up with the update. Two days later, the computer started shutting down repeatedly for no apparent reason. I talked to tech support and the first conclusion they came to was that the battery was faulty, so I tried running it with the battery removed, but eventually it started doing the same thing again. After making sure that it wasn't overheating, the laptop was diagnosed as having a faulty PSU. After waiting for 1.5 months, I had an unusable laptop 3 days later. I RMA-ed the laptop back on Sept 23, and after 3 days of an information blackout, they finally received it.
A day later, I got this:
Update for RMA 17833 by Carl Auckland on 27-09-2013 at 06:37:38 - The cpu has been sent back for repair eta 10/10/13
Now, not only does the CPU being faulty not make any sense (at least to me) since I'm 100% sure it wasn't overheating, but I have to wait OVER TWO WEEKS, JUST for the replacement to arrive, which means, assuming it isn't late, I'll probably get my laptop on the 14-th at the EARLIEST. For those of you that can't tell, that's 2 months and 6 days since the date of order. They wouldn't ship me something I could use meanwhile, since it wasn't covered by the warranty, and apparently they can't just replace the CPU with one of their own.

So here I am, waiting helplessly, unable to do my coursework properly (for Computing Science) or practice my hobby either which is the only reason I even bought such an expensive laptop in the first place.
All in all, I would recommend to anyone looking to buy a laptop from PCS to think long and hard about their decision.
 
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nathanjrb

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Well, it's a shame you have had to wait for so long - but they are fixing it for you...? It's not like they've said 'tough'. Yeah it's a bummer you have to wait but they don't have any obligation to ship you something in the meantime. They've clearly ran tests and discovered the CPU was faulty. If they just swapped the PSU and left the CPU alone - you might have just ended up with it broken yet again? So surely it's a good thing they've taken another measure?
 

Unhumanje

Member
Of course they're fixing it, and of course they are not obliged to ship me something, that doesn't mean it's OK for me not to have a laptop for 2.5 months. I don't even understand how something could fail 3 days later after they've spent (according to their timetable) at least 3 days testing it.
 
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Androcles

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Of course they're fixing it, and of course they are not obliged to ship me something, that doesn't mean it's OK for me not to have a laptop for 2.5 months. I don't even understand how something could fail 3 days after they've spent (according to their timetable) at least 3 days testing it.

becasue to er is human, but to really fowl things up requires a computor. Computors are just like any other piece of electrical equipment, they can fail at any time with no visible symptons until that faitfilled day, the computor could have simply been working perfectly while they had it and just suddenly broken down after you received it, that's the way of electronics, that's why they have warrenty's.
 

Unhumanje

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I forgot to mention a couple of things.
First of all, the reason they're replacing the CPU is because according to their tests it was overheating, which it wasn't because every time it shut down when I had my laptop I would be looking at my temperatures and they were all nowhere near overheating.
Second of all, one of the reasons they thought it was the battery was because I noticed that the battery wasn't charging properly, e.g. I'd leave it in for an hour and it'd go up 6%.
Third of all, my GPU wasn't being utilised fully, which is why we figured it might be a PSU problem in the first place.
What I'm really saying here is that even if the CPU is actually faulty, there's clearly something else going on as well, so they haven't even diagnosed the problem properly.
 

keynes

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Try to give them the chance of getting it sorted before making any conclusions. I am sure everything will be solved, you can also share your concerns by calling them.
 

DeadEyeDuk

Superhero Level Poster
This is why I run scared when over the phone medical diagnosis is talked about :)

Clearly once they received the computer and could actually look at it, the CPU was the problem.

No matter the skills of online/phone support, they cannot always know what is going on, because it isn't there in front of them.

Noone (ok not entirely true) on here will tell you cannot vent/share an opinion/story, but unfortunate events and hardware issues do not really warrant the word appalling in my (super awesome) opinion.

And hey! Cheer up, its Christmas*!


(*I know it is, because I had an M&S Bubbly Santa at the weekend. M&S wouldn't lie to me)
 
My experience has not been any better. Extremely noisy fan, very poor display (having paid £79 extra on 95% Gamut AUO display), poor touch pad with inconsistent function and generally a poor Laptop. Returned it for correction which was returned back promptly to me with no apparent improvement. I am sticking to my self assembled desktop and 5 year old Sony VAIO and considering my options.
 

SimonUK

Member
My laptop is back with (RMA18003) PCS for repair or whatever it is they need to do, give them a chance, no company runs perfectly, there will be mistakes and oversights, what can I say, s**t happens my friend!

It will get sorted... :clap:
 

keynes

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My experience has not been any better. Extremely noisy fan, very poor display (having paid £79 extra on 95% Gamut AUO display), poor touch pad with inconsistent function and generally a poor Laptop. Returned it for correction which was returned back promptly to me with no apparent improvement. I am sticking to my self assembled desktop and 5 year old Sony VAIO and considering my options.

I would suggest opening a new thread, if you haven't done it yet, and raise your concerns. If you are not happy with the laptop after your RMA try contacting them indicating the problems you experience. I hope you get it sorted.
 

Unhumanje

Member
Right, today I finally got my laptop back, and it has already managed to bluescreen on me, and the GPU appears to be throttling. I'm trying not to jump to any conclusions here, but this is literally a 5 day old Windows install. At least the CPU hasn't managed to overheat yet. So far I am not very pleased, if I can't find a problem on my end and I have to RMA this another time I'll be very upset. Oh and I forgot to mention, my DVD drive is not installed properly so it's poking out a little bit.
 

nathanjrb

Prolific Poster
Wow, I'm sorry to hear that. Try figure it out your end, if not contact PCS and maybe you can make a formal complaint - this shouldn't be happening.
 

Andos

Banned
Me too :) two returns for "screen replacement" I had a lot of backlight bleedings and now after 2nd rma finally they sorted. Unfortunately plastic frame on the front of the screen got weak and its going off. Im just scared to send it for rma again because i can get lovely bleedings again. Is that possible to buy from PCS that plastic frame around the screen on the front ? I sent them an email but no respond at all.
 

Delinja

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My experience with PC specialist.

NOTE: I am OP, under a different account

Part 2 of my experiences with PCS.

26-11-2013 - I sent PCS a message requesting they send me the newest BIOS/EC versions for my laptop, since I was hoping that after nearly 5 months this freaking fan issue would be resolved.
I get a reply fairly quickly, saying they'll get right on it, everything's fine and dandy.
Around a week later, I contacted them again, asking what's taking so long and some good fellow explained the process to me and said it should be ready any day now, an answer with which I was perfectly contempt.

10-12-2013 - It's been two weeks now, so I contact them again, asking what's going on.

11-12-2013 - I get the following response:
I am sorry to hear this has not been done yet.

Can you confirm your current BIOS versions from the BIOS information page and I will get these made for you.
At this point I am pretty livid. They pretty much forgot about me. Exceptional customer service there, PCS.

19-12-2013 - It's been over 3 weeks now, still nothing. I contact them again, this time I don't even get a response.
At this point the holidays rolled around, so I forgot about the whole thing.
Well, it's now 09-01-2014 and guess what, I'm still waiting!
 
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keynes

Multiverse Poster
Try posting your story before it gets banned :)
I am sure if you email PCS you can get your account sorted.
 

Tom DWC

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Hi,

Just to clarify, your original account (Unhamanje) has never been banned, your other account (Ethereal) was banned because multiple user accounts are not allowed - nobody was to know the original account was your brothers and you shouldn't be sharing accounts. It's not an attempt to censor you or anything like that - it has to be done to prevent the circumvention of existing bans.

Regardless, please don't post on that account again regarding this issue and keep to the one thread please, it makes it easier for all to keep track of. I'll be merging them in a moment.
 

Delinja

Bronze Level Poster
Hi,

Just to clarify, your original account (Unhamanje) has never been banned, your other account (Ethereal) was banned because multiple user accounts are not allowed - nobody was to know the original account was your brothers and you shouldn't be sharing accounts. It's not an attempt to censor you or anything like that - it has to be done to prevent the circumvention of existing bans.

Regardless, please don't post on that account again regarding this issue and keep to the one thread please, it makes it easier for all to keep track of. I'll be merging them in a moment.
Well obviously I had no desire to use my brothers' account, but I didn't have much of a choice, as I couldn't register my own, and I was pretty annoyed at the time.
Thanks for your understanding anyway.

EDIT- About not seeing my post, the weird thing was I COULD see it at first, and it didn't say it was pending moderation, so I figured it wasn't that.
 
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