Durand1981
Bronze Level Poster
This I have been follwoing a lot on youtube specifically with the 40 series cards issue hence i went AMD on that and cost also.Anything that induces an all core load for a continuous level of time is going to push those temperatures. In order to hit the hights that they have for all core workload the power usage goes through the roof. Modern day motherboards automatically "boost" the power levels to allow this to happen. Most overclocking is pre-defined nowadays, it's not called overclocking as they don't want people manually overclocking so it's forbidden with warranty fine print. It's called boosting.
There is no way to keep the chip temps in check without undervolting/underclocking/sticking on the biggest cooler you can and crossing your fingers. There is a lottery with the standard of the chip you get. Some chips will boost easier, without the same level of power that others require.
Intel have pre-defined these limits to ensure that most chips will outlive their warranty life (3 years I believe). It's a very limited warranty and quite wooley with regards to boosting levels etc. They do tend to honour the warranty, but they are covered under a lot of fine print should they choose not to (Much like the ASUS farce recently put to bed).
The predefined limit on a 13900k is 253w. This can blow straight past 300w as long as the temps are inside the pre-defined 95°C limit. When 95°C is hit, there is thermal throttling that brings the wattage down, brings the clocks/performance down in line and it holds nice and steady until your task is complete. I may be a bit off with my numbers here, this is off the top of my head, but this is the mechanism for how it works.
Intel needs these levels of power in order to hit the performance claims. This is detrimental to the longevity of the chip, but as long as they see past the 3 year warranty line, it's all good for sales and marketing. It's just the consumer that wonders why their chip performance has tanked after 500 95°C thermal cycles as it can no longer push the same clocks due to the silicone degrading. That's if they don't get an all out failure with temps spiking due to the warping giving a poor contact on the cooler of course.
Thankfully, you can buy a bracket to support the IHS and give a better contact with the cooler to prevent warping. Unfortunately, the last I checked this invalidated your warranty.
Intel is in the dog house with prosumers and non-backhanded reviewer/media/blogger outlets etc.
Nvidia are right there along with them. They're making excellent products but their pricing and tier management is abysmal.
And yes I figured tbf with the bracket that much makes perfect sense, pretty much like i was saying previously when i asked about surely if it was that bad is it not a fault ??
Though I got what you were saying and ofcourse intel cant admit its an issue.