PC

[iDeadly_Hex]

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[Oussebon]

What is it going to be used for?

If gaming, what with monitor and what GPU? And do you already own those?

 

[iDeadly_Hex]

What is it going to be used for?

If gaming, what with monitor and what GPU? And do you already own those?

Just streaming and gaming tbh, games i will play mainly are fortnite D2 and csgo, i want to have a consistent 144 frames whilst streaming. Ill be purchasing an asus 144hz monitor along with a 2070. If its possible to downgrade some parts i might do just to save some money because I think this is abit overkill. What are your thoughts on a 2060 super vs normal 2070. I dont already own them however I have found various GPUs for good prices on newegg and similar websites

 

[samwil]

2060 super and 2070 are virtually the same but the 60 is cheaper.

 

[Oussebon]

Newegg is a store over in the US. While they do ship to the UK, the deals are rarely better than what you can get here, once you factor in tax and shipping. And if there's an issue, returns aren't quite as quick (and if you have to pay postage for your particular return, that gets expensive). I don't have anything against Newegg, nearly bought from them a few times, but the above put me off...

What are your thoughts on a 2060 super vs normal 2070.

Depends on pricing. But in general, 2060 Super is the better buy giving you basically the same performance for a lower cost.

If you're streaming, am AMD R7 3700x could be a better choice thanks to the extra threads.

If you haven't bought a GPU yet, consider PCS's Spec of the Month: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/desktop-pcs/pc-of-the-month-aug/
R7 CPU, similar performing GPU (RX 5700 XT is overall a bit better than even the 2070) and a better cooler, PSU, case etc, for the same kind of price as buying that spec and a separate GPU anyway.

 

[iDeadly_Hex]

2060 super and 2070 are virtually the same but the 60 is cheaper.

I've heard that 2060 super doesn't have some features that the 2070 does, that along with slightly more frames is the only reason I'm buying a GPU separate

 

[iDeadly_Hex]

Newegg is a store over in the US. While they do ship to the UK, the deals are rarely better than what you can get here, once you factor in tax and shipping. And if there's an issue, returns aren't quite as quick (and if you have to pay postage for your particular return, that gets expensive). I don't have anything against Newegg, nearly bought from them a few times, but the above put me off...

Depends on pricing. But in general, 2060 Super is the better buy giving you basically the same performance for a lower cost.

If you're streaming, am AMD R7 3700x could be a better choice thanks to the extra threads.

If you haven't bought a GPU yet, consider PCS's Spec of the Month: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/desktop-pcs/pc-of-the-month-aug/
R7 CPU, similar performing GPU (RX 5700 XT is overall a bit better than even the 2070) and a better cooler, PSU, case etc, for the same kind of price as buying that spec and a separate GPU anyway.

I've been told I'll be fine regardless with the 9700k, I was looking at the 3700x and 3800x but no real stand out reason to switch

 

[Oussebon]

I've heard that 2060 super doesn't have some features that the 2070 does,

Which are?

As for slightly more frames, the difference is so slight that it might as well not exist. Human perception won't be able to tell them apart.

I've been told I'll be fine regardless with the 9700k, I was looking at the 3700x and 3800x but no real stand out reason to switch

Ignore the 3800x anyway as it's pointless versus the 3700x.

The 3700x is a better buy than the 9700k for streaming as it has more threads. This is helpful when asking the CPU to encode video while also running a game which is exactly what you are doing when streaming. It would be mad not to buy a 3700x over a 9700k for streaming tbh.

As for being "fine" you'd also be just as "fine" with an R5 3600, which is much cheaper than either.

Furthermore, the PC of the Month is a discounted deal. So it's £1600's worth of hardware for £1450.

 

[samwil]

I've heard that 2060 super doesn't have some features that the 2070 does, that along with slightly more frames is the only reason I'm buying a GPU separate

I think you've been mislead, if this is a vendor telling you this I wouldn't go anywhere near them. I'm actually a bit worried as to the information your getting regarding gpus and cpus.

Follow previous posters advice. If you want ample performance go with the 3700x. A 60 super is a better deal. No ifs or buts, it just is, plus it's more modern tech, which is better for a host of different reasons.

Intel is dead, I genuinely wouldn't but any of their cpus anymore since AMD beat them in every department at the moment.

 

[iDeadly_Hex]

Case
CORSAIR CARBIDE SERIES™ 275Q QUIET CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i7 Eight Core Processor i7-9700K (3.6GHz) 12MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® PRIME Z390-P: ATX, LGA1151, USB 3.1, SATA 6GBs
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2060 SUPER - HDMI, DP - VR Ready!
1st Storage Drive
1TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 64MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB INTEL® 660p M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (upto 1500MB/sR | 1000MB/sW)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 650W VS SERIES™ VS-650 POWER SUPPLY
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H55 Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Extra Case Fans
2x 120mm Black Case Fan (configured to extract from rear/roof)
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
WIRELESS 802.11N 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
NO RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Google Chrome™
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 12 to 14 working days
Price: £1,329.00 including VAT and Delivery

 

[SpyderTracks]

As before, you'd be better off with an AMD 3700x for your uses.

 

[iDeadly_Hex]

As before, you'd be better off with an AMD 3700x for your uses.

Doesn't make a difference though really does it I'll be fine regardless which I choose

 

[thorntheelite]

Yes, it does make a difference. The i7 9700k has 8c/8t, and no simultaneous multi-threading. More and more applications these days are becoming multi-threaded, including some games. Your CPU will not become outdated in the near future, by any means, but it definitely will become obsolete before the R7 3700x does.


And, your RAM. You will not really notice a difference between 3000-3200. 3000MHz is really the price to performance king of RAM speed these days. I think it's like an extra tenner for the 3200, so may as well drop to 3000.

 

[SpyderTracks]

Yes, it does make a difference. The i7 9700k has 8c/8t, and no simultaneous multi-threading. More and more applications these days are becoming multi-threaded, including some games. Your CPU will not become outdated in the near future, by any means, but it definitely will become obsolete before the R7 3700x does.


And, your RAM. You will not really notice a difference between 3000-3200. 3000MHz is really the price to performance king of RAM speed these days. I think it's like an extra tenner for the 3200, so may as well drop to 3000.

This, perfectly put. It's an awful lot more horsepower and a modern design. The intel i7 is based on a 6 year old design and no hyperthreading. There's just no contest, the AMD is a much better fit for your uses.

As before, where ever you've been getting your advice on components, it's entirely inaccurate.

 

[iDeadly_Hex]

This, perfectly put. It's an awful lot more horsepower and a modern design. The intel i7 is based on a 6 year old design and no hyperthreading. There's just no contest, the AMD is a much better fit for your uses.

As before, where ever you've been getting your advice on components, it's entirely inaccurate.

Ok

 

[iDeadly_Hex]

Yes, it does make a difference. The i7 9700k has 8c/8t, and no simultaneous multi-threading. More and more applications these days are becoming multi-threaded, including some games. Your CPU will not become outdated in the near future, by any means, but it definitely will become obsolete before the R7 3700x does.


And, your RAM. You will not really notice a difference between 3000-3200. 3000MHz is really the price to performance king of RAM speed these days. I think it's like an extra tenner for the 3200, so may as well drop to 3000.

Ok but in reality it really doesn't make much difference does it lmao. Aslong as my PC lasts 5+ years I'll be happy and the extra money for RAM I don't mind tbh. Both CPUs will allow me to have 144fps consistently won't they. The 9700k isn't exactly a bad CPU which is what you guys are making it out to be

 

[Oussebon]

You said you're streaming.

You want the 3700x for the extra threads.

Whatever you buy, the H55 is bad value and rather than buying a budget case and adding more fans, makes more sense to just get a better case, with better airflow and better quality + more stock fans anyway.

 

[thorntheelite]

In reality, yes it does. Paying much more for less? If you're going to come onto a forum asking for help and then discredit everything we are saying, why come here in the first place?

Instead of saying "doesnt make much difference does it lmao", why don't you do your own research and see for yourself? Look at the comparisons between the R7 3700x/R5 3600x and i7 9700k (Do not include the highest result on Userbenchmark where the i7 9700k is OC'd to 5.2GHz. You could not achieve that. Plus, if you don't include that insane OC result, the i7 gets beat by the R5 3600x.), the R7/R5 wins in almost every scenario.

Build that exact same spec, using Ryzen and x470/x570 (Although I don't see you using any PCIe 4.0 components, so x570 doesnt really matter tbh.) and you'll save money, get more performance, and future proof your PC for longer than you will with the i7.

Reading this will probably make you think I am an AMD fanboy, but I really am not. I am trying to give you the best advice and get you the best price-to-performance for what you can afford.

 

[iDeadly_Hex]

In reality, yes it does. Paying much more for less? If you're going to come onto a forum asking for help and then discredit everything we are saying, why come here in the first place?

Instead of saying "doesnt make much difference does it lmao", why don't you do your own research and see for yourself? Look at the comparisons between the R7 3700x/R5 3600x and i7 9700k (Do not include the highest result on Userbenchmark where the i7 9700k is OC'd to 5.2GHz. You could not achieve that. Plus, if you don't include that insane OC result, the i7 gets beat by the R5 3600x.), the R7/R5 wins in almost every scenario.

Build that exact same spec, using Ryzen and x470/x570 (Although I don't see you using any PCIe 4.0 components, so x570 doesnt really matter tbh.) and you'll save money, get more performance, and future proof your PC for longer than you will with the i7.

Reading this will probably make you think I am an AMD fanboy, but I really am not. I am trying to give you the best advice and get you the best price-to-performance for what you can afford.

Didn't really want any advice just posting it in the forums so I can show some friends and get advice off people I know instead of people who spend more time on forums than sleep

 

[Oussebon]

It would help if you - and indeed anyone else who just wants to post a "here's my spec, stroke my ego" topic - could kindly label it as such in the opening post.

This way, sad forum members here won't feel a sense of moral obligation to ensure you get best value for your money, and could go sleep