Processor cooler concern

[ubuysa]

Where is the best place to get that, from pc specialist?

A Windows 10 license? Only from Microsoft or in your PCS order. Don't trust any other cheaper deal.

Microsoft don't do cheap deals (except for limited educational uses and the like) so you can pretty much guarantee that any cheap deal you see on the Internet isn't legal and even though the key may work now as soon as Microsoft identify its illegality your support will stop.

If it looks too good to be true then it probably is.

 

[Deleted member 17413]

I dont think Amazon bother checking to be honest.
You will notice that a lot of them pop up for a while then disappear, If anything it looks like Amazon dont check throughly at the start, and by the time anything going round to check stuff hits the 3rd party vendor, its already gone and another two different ones up instead.

 

[ubuysa]

Can I just point out that the Windows on Amazon that was posted, whilst being offered by a 3rd party seller, is actually being fulfilled by Amazon themselves? Which makes you wonder as I can't imagine Amazon would be stocking illegal copies of Windows in their warehouse (well, I would hope not...then again who knows)

Call me a cynic but I think they look the other way. There was a TV programme some weeks ago that highlighted several illegal items on sale via Amazon Marketplace. I think it's important to distinguish between Amazon and Amazon Marketplace. If I'm buying from Amazon I look for products sold by Amazon, not just fulfilled by them.

 

[marklcfc]

A Windows 10 license? Only from Microsoft or in your PCS order. Don't trust any other cheaper deal

Looks like I’ll have to edit my order again for this. I wonder whether to get home or pro version now. I was set on home, the only feature that seems to be missing that I’d miss is that you can’t delay windows updates on it

 

[ubuysa]

Looks like I’ll have to edit my order again for this. I wonder whether to get home or pro version now. I was set on home, the only feature that seems to be missing that I’d miss is that you can’t delay windows updates on it

Pro is really for business use (it supports domain controllers for example) and there isn't anything of note in it that a home user needs, not for the increased price anyway.

 

[SpyderTracks]

Looks like I’ll have to edit my order again for this. I wonder whether to get home or pro version now. I was set on home, the only feature that seems to be missing that I’d miss is that you can’t delay windows updates on it

On current versions you can delay updates exactly the same as on pro.

 

[marklcfc]

I'm wondering should I just go for the 3800x over 3700x for £21 more, or the 3800xt which I'm assuming would be more powerful in the long run

 

[marklcfc]

Standard paste vs MX-4 for my processor? Will the standard be enough?

 

[SpyderTracks]

Your last build was as follows:

Case FRACTAL MESHIFY C BLACK GAMING CASE (Window)
Processor (CPU) AMD Ryzen 7 3800XT Eight Core CPU (4.7GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard ASUS® TUF GAMING B550-PLUS (DDR4, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM) 16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3600MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card 6GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1660 SUPER - HDMI, DP - GeForce GTX VR Ready!
1st Storage Drive 500GB Samsung 860 EVO 2.5" SSD, SATA 6Gb/s (up to 550MB/sR | 520MB/sW)
1st M.2 SSD Drive 500GB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3200MB/W)
Power Supply CORSAIR 750W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable 1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling Noctua NH-U14S Ultra Quiet Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
LED Lighting 50cm Green LED Strip
Sound Card ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking 10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB/Thunderbolt Options 2 PORT (2 x TYPE A) USB 3.1 PCI-E CARD + STANDARD USB PORTS
Operating System Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Supplied on USB Drive
Office Software FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser Google Chrome™
Warranty 3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time Standard Build - Approximately 21 to 23 working days

£1,501.00
inc VAT and Delivery

Not sure what you've changed?

 

[marklcfc]

I made a few adjustments. This is what I've got now, I'm two weeks into pre production and waiting.

Case Model:	Fractal Design Define 7 Compact
Case From:	Fractal Design Define 7 Compact Mid Tower Windowed PC Case Buy from Scan - Fractal Design Define 7 Compact, Mid Tower w/ Light Tint Tempered Glass Window, 120/140mm Fan, USB 3.1 C, ATX/mATX/mITX www.scan.co.uk
Processor (CPU)	AMD Ryzen 7 3700X Eight Core CPU (3.6GHz-4.4GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard	ASUS® TUF X570-PLUS GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0, CrossFireX) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)	16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3600MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card	6GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1660 SUPER - HDMI, DP - GeForce GTX VR Ready!
1st Storage Drive	500GB Samsung 860 EVO 2.5" SSD, SATA 6Gb/s (up to 550MB/sR | 520MB/sW)
1st M.2 SSD Drive	500GB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3200MB/W) Change to: 1TB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3300MB/W)
Power Supply	CORSAIR 750W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable	1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling	Corsair H100i RGB PLATINUM Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste	STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
LED Lighting	50cm Green LED Strip
Sound Card	ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking	10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB/Thunderbolt Options	MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System	Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language	United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media	Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Supplied on USB Drive
Office Software	FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus	NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser	Google Chrome™
Warranty	3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery	STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time	Standard Build - Approximately 21 to 23 working days
Promotional Item	Get Assassin’s Creed® Valhalla with select AMD Ryzen CPUs
Welcome Book	PCSpecialist Welcome Book - United Kingdom & Republic of Ireland

The few things I'd been wondering was, should I go for the 3800x / xt or just stick with 3700x. And will the MX-4 paste be better?
Also does anything not look right now?

 

[marklcfc]

Paste is fine as that Corsair cooler comes with high-grade paste anyway so you'd be wasting £9

As to the CPU: It depends what your uses are? Sorry, tried looking back through but couldn't find anything

Ok didn't know that I'll stick with standard then
My uses is occasional gaming but mostly I'll just be using the computer for day to day things, hence downgrading from the 3800xt. I just want a computer that will last a good while and not grind to a halt a year down the line!

 

[marklcfc]

Well, unless your uses are likely to change, then the XT isn't really worth getting. If I was looking at the 3700x then I'd just spend the extra £21 for the 3800x...gives you the flexibility if your needs change whilst not over-spending. Technically, a gaming machine (unless it's 4k or high-end VR), doesn't need more than a 3600.

I was thinking about that but was put off by much higher tdp in the 3800, whether that should mean anything to me or not

 

[marklcfc]

Is the 3800x worth the £21 extra despite the higher tdp? (not sure whether I should be taking note of that or not)

 

[Scott]

They will both peak fairly similar. The higher TDP is due to the increased base frequency. More frequency = more power. The H100i has you covered entirely though.

 

[marklcfc]

I’m just looking at my case dimensions https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/define/define-7-compact/black/ and coolers again.

It says top radiator up to 240mm so the Corsair H100i is a tight fit as I believe that’s 240mm

I initially wanted the noctua fan which was also a very tight fit but in the height (169mm allowed and the noctua is 165mm) but apparently is quieter

Given this what is suggested? My build date is supposed to be tomorrow so I’m leaving it late to sort out the last decision

 

[Scott]

Let PCS worry about fitting the cooler. The H100i is going to be better at keeping the boost clocks going than the Noctua.

I honestly wouldn't recommend air at all nowadays.