Processor for 3d max corona render need asdvice

[hlirus]

What would you recommend for 3d max corona render

AMD ryzen 9 7950x or ryzen threadripper 7960x?

Thanks

 

[hlirus]

I understand the threadripper 7960x is probably more powerful (would like to know how much more) but I am wondering whether it worth the extra money you have to pay

 

[SpyderTracks]

It all depends on budget, if your budget permits HEDT, then obviously those are substantially more powerful to bring down render times. Corona hugely benefits from the additional cores and obviously gives you the ability to plug in several GPUs through huge PCIe lane support.

 

[hlirus]

It all depends on budget, if your budget permits HEDT, then obviously those are substantially more powerful to bring down render times. Corona hugely benefits from the additional cores and obviously gives you the ability to plug in several GPUs through huge PCIe lane support.

Thanks,

sorry not sure what you meant by "obviously gives you the ability to plug in several GPUs through huge PCIe lane support"
also would love to have more clear indication in percentage on numbers comparison power for these two processors

 

[TonyCarter]

According to GamersNexus review, the Threadripper 7960X is about 20-30% more performant than the 7950X.

 

[hlirus]

According to GamersNexus review, the Threadripper 7960X is about 20-30% more performant than the 7950X.

Thank you

 

[TonyCarter]

But the advantages go further than that, because the platform gives you many more PCIe lanes to add fast storage, multiple GPUs, etc. to increase throughput exponentially if you have the apps that support that scaling.

 

[hlirus]

But the advantages go further than that, because the platform gives you many more PCIe lanes to add fast storage, multiple GPUs, etc. to increase throughput exponentially if you have the apps that support that scaling.

And that just confused me more and more

 

[SpyderTracks]

And that just confused me more and more

Basically, if your budget reaches that far, then HEDT is unquestionably worth it. But all depends on your max budget, that's not something that ever changes based on anything, it's the fixed ceiling you can't go above.

But renders aren't only about the CPU, they're hugely reliant on GPU power as well, HEDT allows to plug multiple GPU's in to vastly decrease render times.

Without knowing your budget, we can't really suggest anything.

But there is not real ceiling in available performance, you can go desktop, HEDT up to Epyc server, each will give performance increases obviously at a cost. Each time you go up a tier, component prices increase exponentially, a desktop motherboard for instance is around £400, and HEDT is around £800, a server mobo more like £1200

 

[hlirus]

Basically, if your budget reaches that far, then HEDT is unquestionably worth it. But all depends on your max budget, that's not something that ever changes based on anything, it's the fixed ceiling you can't go above.

But renders aren't only about the CPU, they're hugely reliant on GPU power as well, HEDT allows to plug multiple GPU's in to vastly decrease render times.

Without knowing your budget, we can't really suggest anything.

But there is not real ceiling in available performance, you can go desktop, HEDT up to Epyc server, each will give performance increases obviously at a cost. Each time you go up a tier, component prices increase exponentially, a desktop motherboard for instance is around £400, and HEDT is around £800, a server mobo more like £1200

I decided to go with 9 7950x - workflow not great nowadays and don't have usually huge heavy projects, plus I think it will be big improvement anyway comparing to my existing Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2695 v2 @ 2.40GH-Dual
Thanks for advise everyone

 

[SpyderTracks]

I decided to go with 9 7950x - workflow not great nowadays and don't have usually huge heavy projects, plus I think it will be big improvement anyway comparing to my existing Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2695 v2 @ 2.40GH-Dual
Thanks for advise everyone

What specs did you go for? I would definitely get some advice, if you weren’t sure on pcie lanes, there are many other factors that come into play with setups?

 

[hlirus]

What specs did you go for? I would definitely get some advice, if you weren’t sure on pcie lanes, there are many other factors that come into play with setups?

Case	CORSAIR 4000D AIRFLOW TEMPERED GLASS GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)	AMD Ryzen 9 7950X 16 Core CPU (4.5GHz-5.7GHz/80MB CACHE/AM5)
Motherboard	ASUS® TUF GAMING X670E-PLUS WIFI (AM5, DDR5, PCIe 5.0, Wi-Fi 6E)
Memory (RAM)	128GB PCS PRO DDR5 4800MHz (4 x 32GB)
Graphics Card	12GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 4070 Ti - HDMI, DP, LHR
1st M.2 SSD Drive	1TB SOLIDIGM P44 PRO GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 7000MB/sR, 6500MB/sW)
1st Storage Drive	4TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 5400RPM, 256MB CACHE
Power Supply	CORSAIR 750W RMe SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET

Processor Cooling

CORSAIR H100x RGB ELITE HIGH PERFORMANCE CPU COOLER

Operating System

Windows 11 Professional 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence

(1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)

 

[SpyderTracks]

Case	CORSAIR 4000D AIRFLOW TEMPERED GLASS GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)	AMD Ryzen 9 7950X 16 Core CPU (4.5GHz-5.7GHz/80MB CACHE/AM5)
Motherboard	ASUS® TUF GAMING X670E-PLUS WIFI (AM5, DDR5, PCIe 5.0, Wi-Fi 6E)
Memory (RAM)	128GB PCS PRO DDR5 4800MHz (4 x 32GB)
Graphics Card	12GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 4070 Ti - HDMI, DP, LHR
1st M.2 SSD Drive	1TB SOLIDIGM P44 PRO GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 7000MB/sR, 6500MB/sW)
1st Storage Drive	4TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 5400RPM, 256MB CACHE
Power Supply	CORSAIR 750W RMe SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET

Processor Cooling

CORSAIR H100x RGB ELITE HIGH PERFORMANCE CPU COOLER

Operating System

Windows 11 Professional 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence

(1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)

I would strongly recommend getting some advice. You've got an entry level case dictating airflow to pretty high end components that will be stressed for long periods of time, IMHO, it's not sufficient. There are other issues as well like the PSU, it's not particularly well balanced. The RAM is far too slow and will bottleneck the processor. The cooler is not enough for the CPU either and it will thermal throttle so you may as well be putting in a lower end chip as available performance will never be reached. Storage setup isn't suitable for a render workstation, and that's just by what you've posted.

I don't understand where this opinion that you can just throw anything together and it will work comes from, please don't buy that system, it's not going to work well.

 

[hlirus]

I would strongly recommend getting some advice. You've got an entry level case dictating airflow to pretty high end components that will be stressed for long periods of time, IMHO, it's not sufficient. There are other issues as well like the PSU, it's not particularly well balanced. The RAM is far too slow and will bottleneck the processor. The cooler is not enough for the CPU either and it will thermal throttle so you may as well be putting in a lower end chip as available performance will never be reached. Storage setup isn't suitable for a render workstation, and that's just by what you've posted.

I don't understand where this opinion that you can just throw anything together and it will work comes from, please don't buy that system, it's not going to work well.

unfortunately I already paid. I did contact pcspecialist support for advice before purchase and was told everything is fine

 

[SpyderTracks]

unfortunately I already paid. I did contact pcspecialist support for advice before purchase and was told everything is fine

Doesn't prevent you from making changes if you've paid.

It's up to you of course, but from a non-sales perspective, that's a really poor build and won't perform well.

That board doesn't even support that RAM, so no idea why it's been sold to you.

 

[hlirus]

Doesn't prevent you from making changes if you've paid.

It's up to you of course, but from a non-sales perspective, that's a really poor build and won't perform well.

That board doesn't even support that RAM, so no idea why it's been sold to you.

How do I make changes and what changes should I make?

 

[SpyderTracks]

How do I make changes and what changes should I make?

We need to go back to the drawing board, to get that build up to scratch would take quite a bit of extra money, if your budget doesn't accomodate that, it's pointless suggesting it.

So what's your max budget?

Why have you selected Windows Pro?

What's the reason for 128Gb RAM, does your workflow dictate that amount?

 

[hlirus]

We need to go back to the drawing board, to get that build up to scratch would take quite a bit of extra money, if your budget doesn't accomodate that, it's pointless suggesting it.

So what's your max budget?

Why have you selected Windows Pro?

What's the reason for 128Gb RAM, does your workflow dictate that amount?

So what's your max budget? - I can spent 300-400 more
Why have you selected Windows Pro? - with 128 ram it's the only option

I have 64 now - sometime not enaugph

 

[SpyderTracks]

I have 64 now - sometime not enaugph

What makes you think it's not enough, are you seeing it write to the scratch drive for extended periods, or hard page faults?

So what's your max budget? - I can spent 300-400 more

Not sure what more means more on what? We need a maximum budget?

 

[hlirus]

What makes you think it's not enough, are you seeing it write to the scratch drive for extended periods, or hard page faults?

Corona render works on CPU and RAM - sometime ram usage 100% during rendering

Not sure what more means more on what? We need a maximum budget? £400 extra maximum