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slow/sluggish BIOS menu

Joeyniple

Member
When i was changing my fan setting in the BIOS, i noticed the menu was very slow/sluggish with the mouse. I have the ASUS ROG STRIX X570-F Gaming mobo. The system seems to run fine with no performance issues i can notice. Had a look at the system info and the BIOS version/date says American Megatrends inc 3404, 14/01/2021. Is this something to worry about, should i ring PCS about a BIOS update for this mobo?
 

SpyderTracks

Bingo Bango Orchestrator
Moderator
For the BIOS itself to run slow there would have to be something catastrophically wrong and very unusual.

What’s more likely is slow mouse support outside of windows. Try with a wired mouse and see if it behaves differently.
 

NoddyPirate

VALUED CONTRIBUTOR
My mouse is connected via USB - Mouse performance on my BIOS is slow enough to be almost unusable - delay in cursor catching up with my movements - clicks can be hit and miss - etc - which is why I use keyboard controls instead.

Using Q-fan in BIOS is tedious as a result. Which is why I use Fan Expert mostly instead from within Windows.

A wired connection might be a bit better, but BIOS is not a full OS so I consider my mouse behaviour to be perfectly normal as far as I am concerned. I wouldn't worry about it at all.

My motherboard is ASUS PRIME B550 PLUS - previous and latest BIOS version behave identically.

(P.S. Do not attempt to update your BIOS version without PCS' express permission.)
 

NoddyPirate

VALUED CONTRIBUTOR
On the other hand I'm using a Logitech Logi wireless mouse and that performs as well in the BIOS setup as it does in Windows. Go figure...
It probably depends on the polling period being used I'd imagine. If the mouse is buffering it's movements quicker than the BIOS can handle them then I imagine lag will result.

Perhaps if the OP has one of those fancy mice where you can change the polling rate then it might help if they changed it.....?
 

NoddyPirate

VALUED CONTRIBUTOR
On the other hand I'm using a Logitech Logi wireless mouse and that performs as well in the BIOS setup as it does in Windows. Go figure...
Juts checked my mouse specs - it has a dpi of 1000 which is high for a basic mouse but low for a gaming mouse I suppose - can you tell what your DPI is - just for comparison?

(EDIT - I can't see my polling rate so have no idea what it is.....)
 

Don Coyote

Active member
I have the same motherboard and when I am in the BIOS it is also very slow like moving in treacle when using the mouse; when making selections with the keyboard then everything is quick as you would expect. I think it has as much to do with the resolution on the widescreen monitor not working too well with the BIOS output and the mouse dpi.
 

ubuysa

The BSOD Doctor
Moderator
Juts checked my mouse specs - it has a dpi of 1000 which is high for a basic mouse but low for a gaming mouse I suppose - can you tell what your DPI is - just for comparison?

(EDIT - I can't see my polling rate so have no idea what it is.....)
Dunno to be honest. The blurb says it's variable between 400 and 4000 dpi but I've no idea how you can change that. I don't game so it's never really been an issue for me. :oops:
 

NoddyPirate

VALUED CONTRIBUTOR
Dunno to be honest. The blurb says it's variable between 400 and 4000 dpi but I've no idea how you can change that. I don't game so it's never really been an issue for me. :oops:
If yer bored - it would be interesting to see if the extreme settings make any difference within BIOS. I've no idea if changing DPI would change the polling rate too.....?

A fun exercise for you for the weekend!
 

ubuysa

The BSOD Doctor
Moderator
If yer bored - it would be interesting to see if the extreme settings make any difference within BIOS. I've no idea if changing DPI would change the polling rate too.....?

A fun exercise for you for the weekend!
It's hardware innit? As I said I've no idea even how to change the DPI on that mouse. I can swap the pointer speed between two settings via a mouse button but I don't suppose that affects the DPI at all? I did just install Logitech Options (against my better judgement - and only because the upcoming 21H1 will give me an excuse to reinstall Windows) but there's nothing in there to directly set the DPI.
 

NoddyPirate

VALUED CONTRIBUTOR
It's hardware innit? As I said I've no idea even how to change the DPI on that mouse. I can swap the pointer speed between two settings via a mouse button but I don't suppose that affects the DPI at all? I did just install Logitech Options (against my better judgement - and only because the upcoming 21H1 will give me an excuse to reinstall Windows) but there's nothing in there to directly set the DPI.
I think the pointer speed button is actually changing the DPI.

I just remembered I have a USB mouse for the kids computer which has two DPI settings - so I'll run a quick test later for the OP - I'm stuck in a Teams meeting at the moment so can't restart into BIOS for a while! :rolleyes:
 

NoddyPirate

VALUED CONTRIBUTOR
Right - tea break in the meeting - just tried the other mouse which has 3 DPI settings on it......

......and it made no real difference at all! There goes that theory! :D However it was easier to use this mouse in BIOS than my original one - so it may be that DPI has nothing to with polling rate and polling rate might be what matters.

The OP could try a different mouse - or better yet, fiddle with BIOS so much that you learn all the handy keyboard shortcuts and sequence of key presses within BIOS so you can go into it, change something and save and exit with your eyes closed. It works for me! :)
 

Joeyniple

Member
Thanks for the replies, i went into the BIOS again to have another look. I would say the mouse is kind of sluggish but not worryingly slow and not smooth like using windows but it is usable, maybe it's fine. I'm using a wired USB mouse, a Tecknet one which is about £15 so nothing fancy here. Also noticed that when i start the PC, if i dont turn the monitor power on first, i get a long beep followed by 3 short beeps after and it will boot after that and If i turn the monitor on first it's fine, no idea what that is either. Also here is the specs since i couldn't access it the other day.

CaseCOOLERMASTER MASTERBOX TD500 MESH ARGB GAMING CASE
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Processor (CPU)AMD Ryzen 7 5800X Eight Core CPU (3.8GHz-4.7GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
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Change to: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 12 Core CPU (3.7GHz-4.8GHz/70MB CACHE/AM4)
MotherboardASUS® ROG STRIX X570-F GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3600MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3070 - HDMI, DP
1st Storage DriveNOT REQUIRED
1st M.2 SSD Drive500GB SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 6900MB/R, 5000MB/W)
2nd M.2 SSD Drive1TB CORSAIR MP400 NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD (up to 3480 MB/R, 1880 MB/W)
DVD/BLU-RAY DriveNOT REQUIRED
Power SupplyCORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor CoolingCorsair H115i ELITE CAPELLIX RGB Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal PasteSTANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound CardONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB/Thunderbolt OptionsMIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating SystemWindows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System LanguageUnited Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery MediaNO RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED
Office SoftwareFREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-VirusNO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
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ubuysa

The BSOD Doctor
Moderator
Thanks for the replies, i went into the BIOS again to have another look. I would say the mouse is kind of sluggish but not worryingly slow and not smooth like using windows but it is usable, maybe it's fine. I'm using a wired USB mouse, a Tecknet one which is about £15 so nothing fancy here. Also noticed that when i start the PC, if i dont turn the monitor power on first, i get a long beep followed by 3 short beeps after and it will boot after that and If i turn the monitor on first it's fine, no idea what that is either. Also here is the specs since i couldn't access it the other day.

CaseCOOLERMASTER MASTERBOX TD500 MESH ARGB GAMING CASE
down_right_arrow.gif
Change to: CORSAIR 5000D AIRFLOW TEMPERED GLASS GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)AMD Ryzen 7 5800X Eight Core CPU (3.8GHz-4.7GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
down_right_arrow.gif
Change to: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 12 Core CPU (3.7GHz-4.8GHz/70MB CACHE/AM4)
MotherboardASUS ROG STRIX X570-F GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3600MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3070 - HDMI, DP
1st Storage DriveNOT REQUIRED
1st M.2 SSD Drive500GB SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 6900MB/R, 5000MB/W)
2nd M.2 SSD Drive1TB CORSAIR MP400 NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD (up to 3480 MB/R, 1880 MB/W)
DVD/BLU-RAY DriveNOT REQUIRED
Power SupplyCORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES MODULAR 80 PLUS GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor CoolingCorsair H115i ELITE CAPELLIX RGB Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal PasteSTANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound CardONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB/Thunderbolt OptionsMIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating SystemWindows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System LanguageUnited Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery MediaNO RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED
Office SoftwareFREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-VirusNO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
BrowserGoogle Chrome
Warranty3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
DeliverySTANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build TimeStandard Build - Subject to stock availability on pre-order products
Welcome BookPCSpecialist Welcome Book - United Kingdom & Republic of Ireland

The beeps with the monitor off is a well know effect and is nothing to worry about.
 

Joeyniple

Member
The beeps with the monitor off is a well know effect and is nothing to worry about.
Good to hear, it was worrying me a bit but i thought it would be something to do with not recognizing a display without the power i guess. Doesn't seem i have to worry about doing a BIOS update then, the menus change fine when i click them just the mouse seems a big laggy/slow caused by USB compatibility issues maybe? since the more recent firmware updates on the ASUS site have that in them.
 

NoddyPirate

VALUED CONTRIBUTOR
Good to hear, it was worrying me a bit but i thought it would be something to do with not recognizing a display without the power i guess. Doesn't seem i have to worry about doing a BIOS update then, the menus change fine when i click them just the mouse seems a big laggy/slow caused by USB compatibility issues maybe? since the more recent firmware updates on the ASUS site have that in them.
I think the lag is just simply the low refresh rate of the mouse information while using BIOS. I wouldn't think it's BIOS version realted myself.
 
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