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Spec for desktop replacement

justafolk

Active member
Having direct family in different countries, as explained in another thread, planning to become far more mobile between the 2 and add extra travelling in between.

My current set up is an i7KF, 32GBRam, 3080 10GB, msi mobo, liquid cooling, m2 + ssd + HDD storage solutions, playing on a 1440p setting curved monitor.

Knowing that laptop GPU models will never compare to the desktop counterpart of the same name, this is what I'm planning to do in terms of a laptop purchase.

I'm guessing still downgrade compared to the desktop, but would like to know how much of a downgrade is it.




Chassis & Display
Recoil Series: 15.6" Matte QHD 165Hz sRGB 100% LED Widescreen (2560x1440)
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i7 Eight Core Processor 11800H (2.4GHz, 4.6GHz Turbo)
Get Chivalry 2 & HITMAN 3 with select Intel® Core™ Processors
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair 2933MHz SODIMM DDR4 (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 3080 - 16.0GB GDDR6 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.1
Get 6 Months Founders Membership to GeForce Now w/ select RTX 30 Series Laptops
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB INTEL® 670p M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 3000MB/sR | 1600MB/sW)
2nd M.2 SSD Drive
1TB CORSAIR MP400 NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD (up to 3480 MB/R, 1880 MB/W)
Memory Card Reader
Integrated SD Memory Card Reader
AC Adaptor
1 x 230W AC Adaptor
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Battery
Recoil Series Integrated 94WH Lithium Ion Battery
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Sound Card
2 Channel High Definition Audio + MIC/Headphone Jack
Bluetooth & Wireless
GIGABIT LAN & WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 (2.4 Gbps) + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
1 x USB 3.2 PORT (Type C) + 3 x USB 3.2 PORTS
Keyboard Language
PER-KEY RGB BACKLIT UK MECHANICAL KEYBOARD
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Google Chrome™
Carry Case
Tech Air 15.6" TAN3715 Classic Backpack
Notebook Mouse
INTEGRATED 2 BUTTON TOUCHPAD MOUSE
Webcam
INTEGRATED 1MP HD WEBCAM
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
TIMED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND - MON-FRI (BEFORE 2PM)
Build Time
FAST TRACK 5 WORKING DAY DISPATCH
 

Nedd Ludd

Active member
If you can afford it and serioulsy want a laptop as a desktop replacement, go for the 17" Recoil with the 300 Hz display and a full blown processor rather than a cut down wannaba. You also get the option to have four M2 memory cards.
 

justafolk

Active member
If you can afford it and serioulsy want a laptop as a desktop replacement, go for the 17" Recoil with the 300 Hz display and a full blown processor rather than a cut down wannaba. You also get the option to have four M2 memory cards.
Recoil itself is unavailable for another 2 days, cutting too close to my departure time between build time and all that.

3080 is also unavailable until august itself, no use for me

is at 1080

already at £2.7k without touching the storage and delivery bits

the wannabe will have to do i think
 

CMP01

Gold Level Poster
There is (possibly) a third option here.

Might not be your thing but recently having similar weighing up and options re a latest gen gaming laptop I discovered a thing or two in my research.

Basically, unlike the last two (10xx and 20xx) gen Nvidia GPU's the high end of this gens laptop ones are even further away re performance from their desktop counterparts. And that's before taking heat and throttling into account with power/TDP going up and the chassis themselves getting ever thinner (my old laptop, below, was bad enough for heat/noise) Honestly, unless you're happy to pay for greater diminishing returns than before (and can't/won't undervolt/repaste aso) I'd be happy going for lower spec in the case of 30xx equipped laptops. On the bright side (for those admittedly few/low selection of games as have it) while I'm not the biggest fan of it, you'll have DLSS to notch things up from the lower base perf/power needs of a 3060ti or so (good for mid 1440p/high 1080p before DLSS)

As it happened, I had to draw a line in the sand and went for a whole new uber desktop instead (below) of a not so big upgrade for the older one and a newer laptop replacing the old (those having 6700K/8750H and 144Hz 1080 ultrawide/120Hz 1080p respectively and both with a 1070) I could actually afford a 3070 laptop and some decent level of desktop upgrade but that was also underwhelming re the laptops performance(s) under load for the money against the old laptop. For the odd week/fortnight away though, the old laptop will do.

Anyway, just something to consider maybe. If you have the money spare go for the big guns but you will need to undervolt/carry a cooling pad etc at least.
 

justafolk

Active member
Purpose of use:

Main game currently is destiny 2, alongside vintage games such as aom extended edition, and star wars: the old republic. I do however buy the odd shining new triple A, and liking to play on high settings, due to:


Reason of purchase: have direct family in 2 different countries (italy and uk) writing this from italy on a 840m laptop with a busted speaker, while uk has a desktop sporting a 3080 build, also potentially looking at work in other parts of uk, which would require me even more mobility. I'm already aware that laptop wise I'm looking at a downgrade from said desktop unless i splurge some 3k or so.

2 quotes I'm looking at:

Chassis & Display
Recoil Series: 15.6" Matte QHD 165Hz sRGB 100% LED Widescreen (2560x1440)
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i7 Eight Core Processor 11800H (2.3GHz, 4.6GHz Turbo)
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair 2933MHz SODIMM DDR4 (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 3080 - 16.0GB GDDR6 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.1
1st M.2 SSD Drive
900GB ENMOTUS FUZEDRIVE M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3470MB/R, 2000MB/W, 24GB SLC for endurance)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
250GB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 2300MB/W)
Memory Card Reader
Integrated SD Memory Card Reader
AC Adaptor
1 x 230W AC Adaptor
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Battery
Recoil Series Integrated 94WH Lithium Ion Battery
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Sound Card
2 Channel High Definition Audio + MIC/Headphone Jack
Wireless Network Card
GIGABIT LAN & KILLER™ Wi-Fi 6 AX1650 M.2 GAMING + BLUETOOTH 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
1 x USB 3.2 PORT (Type C) + 3 x USB 3.2 PORTS
Keyboard Language
PER-KEY RGB BACKLIT UK MECHANICAL KEYBOARD
Operating System
Windows 10 Professional 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Keyboard & Mouse
INTEGRATED 2 BUTTON TOUCHPAD MOUSE
Webcam
INTEGRATED 1MP HD WEBCAM
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Dead Pixel Guarantee
30 Day Dead Pixel Guarantee Inc. Labour & Carriage Costs
Chassis
TongFang GM5TN8W (16GB RTX-3080, i7-11800H, 165Hz QHD)
Delivery
TIMED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND - MON-FRI (BEFORE 2PM)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 6 to 9 working days
Price: £2,292.00 including VAT and Delivery


And


Chassis & Display
Valeon Series: 17.3" Matte QHD 165Hz sRGB 100% LED Widescreen (2560x1440)
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen™ 9 Eight Core Processor 5900HX (3.3GHz, 4.6GHz Turbo)
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair 2933MHz SODIMM DDR4 (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 3080 - 16.0GB GDDR6 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.1
1st M.2 SSD Drive
900GB ENMOTUS FUZEDRIVE M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3470MB/R, 2000MB/W, 24GB SLC for endurance)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
250GB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 2300MB/W)
Memory Card Reader
Integrated SD Memory Card Reader
AC Adaptor
1 x 230W AC Adaptor
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Battery
Valeon Series Integrated 62WH Lithium Ion Battery
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Sound Card
2 Channel High Definition Audio + MIC/Headphone Jack
Wireless Network Card
GIGABIT LAN & KILLER™ Wi-Fi 6 AX1650 M.2 GAMING + BLUETOOTH 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
1 x USB 3.2 PORT (Type C) + 3 x USB 3.2 PORTS
Keyboard Language
VALEON 17 SERIES RGB BACKLIT UK KEYBOARD
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Supplied on USB Drive
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - 3 User, 1 Year
Browser
Google Chrome™
Keyboard & Mouse
INTEGRATED 2 BUTTON TOUCHPAD MOUSE
Webcam
INTEGRATED 1MP HD WEBCAM
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Chassis
TongFang GM7ZN8M (16GB RTX-3080, R9-5900HX, 165Hz QHD, Blank KB)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 6 to 9 working days
Price: £2,256.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/valeon-17/Z6dZFES6BN/

Any suggestions, if you would?
 

Scott

Behold The Ford Mondeo
Moderator
Posting up some minor changes. I would definitely opt for the AMD myself. You would get a little more gaming performance from the Intel but not enough to warrant the power efficiency. To the naked eye they will both perform similarly.

The storage selections were quite strange so I've gone with a more conventional approach. Just in case it was something you had done deliberately. Primary drive for OS & programs only, second drive for games, fast storage & cache if needed.

Chassis & Display
Valeon Series: 17.3" Matte QHD 165Hz sRGB 100% LED Widescreen (2560x1440)
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen™ 9 Eight Core Processor 5900HX (3.3GHz, 4.6GHz Turbo)
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair 2933MHz SODIMM DDR4 (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 3080 - 16.0GB GDDR6 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.1
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3200MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3300MB/W)
Memory Card Reader
Integrated SD Memory Card Reader
AC Adaptor
1 x 230W AC Adaptor
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Battery
Valeon Series Integrated 62WH Lithium Ion Battery
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Sound Card
2 Channel High Definition Audio + MIC/Headphone Jack
Wireless Network Card
GIGABIT LAN & KILLER™ Wi-Fi 6 AX1650 M.2 GAMING + BLUETOOTH 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
1 x USB 3.2 PORT (Type C) + 3 x USB 3.2 PORTS
Keyboard Language
VALEON 17 SERIES RGB BACKLIT UK KEYBOARD
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
NO RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Google Chrome™
Keyboard & Mouse
INTEGRATED 2 BUTTON TOUCHPAD MOUSE
Webcam
INTEGRATED 1MP HD WEBCAM
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Chassis
TongFang GM7ZN8M (16GB RTX-3080, R9-5900HX, 165Hz QHD, Blank KB)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 6 to 9 working days
Price: £2,285.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/valeon-17/J532ryumXz/
 

Bhuna50

MOST VALUED CONTRIBUTOR
I'd go with @Scott selection too, but my advice has always been for a laptop that costs that much to up the warranty to the GOLD warranty for only £69 as that gives you two years on parts.

Laptops can run very hot and the chassis / motherboard are quite expensive due to GPU usually being soldered on as part of it.
 

FerrariVie

MOST VALUED CONTRIBUTOR
I agree with @Scott , the only thing we don't know is the TDP of the 3080 in both of @justafolk 's options. I would expect the Recoil to be the biggest wattage available, but maybe I'm wrong. Also, expect it to be a very noisy boy. Not saying that the Valeon will be quiet, but definitely less noisy than the Recoil.

Me again... still looking at the valeon...
Is its keyboard mechanical?
It doesn't look like it, at least looking at the pictures. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but it doesn't look like PCS has any mechanical keyboard at the moment?
 

SpyderTracks

Bingo Bango Orchestrator
Moderator
It doesn't look like it, at least looking at the pictures. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but it doesn't look like PCS has any mechanical keyboard at the moment?
I can't remember which was the previous model to have the "faux" mechanical switches, but they had quite a few issues and needed to be pressed at a certain angle or just didn't register keystrokes. I believe that was one of the models that was pulled fairly quickly.
 

justafolk

Active member
I agree with @Scott , the only thing we don't know is the TDP of the 3080 in both of @justafolk 's options. I would expect the Recoil to be the biggest wattage available, but maybe I'm wrong. Also, expect it to be a very noisy boy. Not saying that the Valeon will be quiet, but definitely less noisy than the Recoil.


It doesn't look like it, at least looking at the pictures. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but it doesn't look like PCS has any mechanical keyboard at the moment?
15.6 recoil has one of its key features ( bold black ) being a per RGB mech keyboard
 

justafolk

Active member
interested in knowing:
the TDP of the 3070
where would the processor sit, compared to 11800H and 5900x.
and if anyone has already got one, and is they got any feedback of sorts.



Chassis & Display
Destian Series: 15.6" Matte Full HD 240Hz 72% NTSC LED Widescreen (1920x1080)
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Six Core CPU (3.7GHz-4.6GHz/35MB CACHE/AM4)
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair 3200MHz SODIMM DDR4 (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 3070 - 8.0GB GDDR6 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.1
Get Guardians of the Galaxy with select GeForce RTX™ 30 Series GPUs
1st Storage Drive
1TB Samsung 870 QVO 2.5" SSD, SATA 6Gb/s (up to 560MB/sR | 530MB/sW)
Get Far Cry 6 with select Samsung SSDs
1st M.2 SSD Drive
250GB SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 6400MB/R, 2700MB/W)
2nd M.2 SSD Drive
512GB INTEL® 670p M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 3000MB/sR | 1600MB/sW) (Special Offer)
AC Adaptor
1 x 230W AC Adaptor
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Battery
Destian Series Detachable 6 Cell Lithium Ion Battery
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Sound Card
2 Channel High Def. Audio + SoundBlaster™ Cinema
Bluetooth & Wireless
GIGABIT LAN & WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6E AX210 (2.4 Gbps) + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
1 x USB 3.2 PORT (Type C) + 2 x USB 3.2 PORTS + 1 x USB 2.0 PORT
Keyboard Language
15" DESTIAN SERIES UK KEYBOARD
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00003]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Notebook Mouse
INTEGRATED 2 BUTTON TOUCHPAD MOUSE
Webcam
INTEGRATED 1MP HD WEBCAM
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 10 to 12 working days
 

justafolk

Active member
More questions about the Valeon 17''

Soon to be pulling the trigger on this spec:
Chassis & Display
Valeon Series: 17.3" Matte QHD 165Hz sRGB 100% LED Widescreen (2560x1440)
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen™ 9 Eight Core Processor 5900HX (3.3GHz, 4.6GHz Turbo)
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair 3200MHz SODIMM DDR4 (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 3070 - 8.0GB GDDR6 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.1
Get 6 Months Founders Membership to GeForce Now w/ select RTX 30 Series Laptops
Get Guardians of the Galaxy with select GeForce RTX™ 30 Series GPUs
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3200MB/W)
2nd M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3300MB/W)
Get Far Cry 6 with select Samsung SSDs
Memory Card Reader
Integrated SD Memory Card Reader
AC Adaptor
1 x 230W AC Adaptor
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Battery
Valeon Series Integrated 62WH Lithium Ion Battery
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Sound Card
2 Channel High Definition Audio + MIC/Headphone Jack
Bluetooth & Wireless
GIGABIT LAN & WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6E AX210 (2.4 Gbps) + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
1 x USB 3.2 PORT (Type C) + 3 x USB 3.2 PORTS
Keyboard Language
VALEON 17 SERIES RGB BACKLIT UK KEYBOARD
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00003]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Notebook Mouse
INTEGRATED 2 BUTTON TOUCHPAD MOUSE
Webcam
INTEGRATED 1MP HD WEBCAM
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 10 to 12 working days

Questions:

seeing the option to buy 2 power bricks - does it need both plugged in to function at 100%? ( see alienware area 51-m )

Budget not being an issue, is the 3080 worth the £ 300 (and the wait) over the 3070? video comparisons only give it a few fps above the 3070, and a far smaller jump compared to 3070v3060

seeing a lot about the killer vs intel wifi cards atm, drivers and all that. Which one to go for?
 

SpyderTracks

Bingo Bango Orchestrator
Moderator
More questions about the Valeon 17''

Soon to be pulling the trigger on this spec:
Chassis & Display
Valeon Series: 17.3" Matte QHD 165Hz sRGB 100% LED Widescreen (2560x1440)
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen™ 9 Eight Core Processor 5900HX (3.3GHz, 4.6GHz Turbo)
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair 3200MHz SODIMM DDR4 (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 3070 - 8.0GB GDDR6 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.1
Get 6 Months Founders Membership to GeForce Now w/ select RTX 30 Series Laptops
Get Guardians of the Galaxy with select GeForce RTX™ 30 Series GPUs
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3200MB/W)
2nd M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3300MB/W)
Get Far Cry 6 with select Samsung SSDs
Memory Card Reader
Integrated SD Memory Card Reader
AC Adaptor
1 x 230W AC Adaptor
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Battery
Valeon Series Integrated 62WH Lithium Ion Battery
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Sound Card
2 Channel High Definition Audio + MIC/Headphone Jack
Bluetooth & Wireless
GIGABIT LAN & WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6E AX210 (2.4 Gbps) + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
1 x USB 3.2 PORT (Type C) + 3 x USB 3.2 PORTS
Keyboard Language
VALEON 17 SERIES RGB BACKLIT UK KEYBOARD
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00003]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Notebook Mouse
INTEGRATED 2 BUTTON TOUCHPAD MOUSE
Webcam
INTEGRATED 1MP HD WEBCAM
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 10 to 12 working days

Questions:

seeing the option to buy 2 power bricks - does it need both plugged in to function at 100%? ( see alienware area 51-m )

Budget not being an issue, is the 3080 worth the £ 300 (and the wait) over the 3070? video comparisons only give it a few fps above the 3070, and a far smaller jump compared to 3070v3060

seeing a lot about the killer vs intel wifi cards atm, drivers and all that. Which one to go for?
Yes, you need both power bricks.

EDIT: VALEON ONLY REQUIRES ONE POWER BRICK, APOLOGIES

3080 is up to 10% improvement, only you can say weather that's worth it or not.

I would suggest Killer although they've been bought out by intel now anyway
 
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Martinr36

MOST VALUED CONTRIBUTOR
I would suggest Killer although they've been bought out by intel now anyway
There are some problems with killer and W11 at the moment, causing slower speeds, download on my laptop which has the KILLER™ Wi-Fi 6 AX1650 installed is showing download speeds about half that of my phone (galaxy z fold 2) under W11, when i was on W10 they were pretty much identical
 

SpyderTracks

Bingo Bango Orchestrator
Moderator
There are some problems with killer and W11 at the moment, causing slower speeds, download on my laptop which has the KILLER™ Wi-Fi 6 AX1650 installed is showing download speeds about half that of my phone (galaxy z fold 2) under W11, when i was on W10 they were pretty much identical
Is that killer specifically or just the realtek chipsets?
 

KriSta

Silver Level Poster
I have the Valeon with the RTX 3070 and the Killer nic and the RTX 3080 is just 5-7 % faster than the 3070 due to thermals and wattage . As for the Killer wifi card , in Windows 10 I have not had any issues with it. It gives good coverage and speed. It does have it`s own software aimed towards gaming . The keyboard is not mechanical , but still decent . I`ve not used it much as I`m using an external one . There has been some complaints on Tong Fang chassis about fading keys on the keyboards , and Valeon might be affected . For the money it is a high performing bit of hardware , but quality wise ( materials ) it might feel a bit cheap compared to other brands .
 

justafolk

Active member
Yes, you need both power bricks.

3080 is up to 10% improvement, only you can say weather that's worth it or not.

I would suggest Killer although they've been bought out by intel now anyway
power bricks: 2x for 3080 and 1x for 3070? or both will need 2? that's such a put off, idk..
 
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