Want a rig for extreem gaming.

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Gunjin

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I am planning on ordering the following :-

Case
COOLERMASTER CM STORM TROOPER - GAMING ENTHUSIAST CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™i7 Quad Core Processor i7-4820K (3.7GHz) 10MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® RAMPAGE IV EXTREME: INTEL X79, SOCKET 2011, R.O.G
Memory (RAM)
16GB KINGSTON HYPERX BEAST DUAL-DDR3 2400MHz X.M.P (2 x 8GB KIT)
Graphics Card
3GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 780 - 2 DVI, HDMI, DP - 3D Vision Ready
Memory - 1st Hard Disk
240GB INTEL® 520 SERIES SSD, SATA 6 Gb/s (upto 550MB/sR | 520MB/sW)
2nd Hard Disk
2TB 3.5" SATA-III 6GB/s HDD 7200RPM 64MB CACHE
1st DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
8x BLU-RAY ROM DRIVE, 16x DVD ±R/±RW
Power Supply
CORSAIR 750W ENTHUSIAST SERIES™ MODULAR TXM-750 V2-80 PLUS®
Processor Cooling
Corsair H60 Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
Creative Sound Blaster Zx 5.1 PCI-E Soundcard
Wireless/Wired Networking
DUAL-BAND WIRELESS 802.11N 450Mbps PCI-E CARD
USB Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 6 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Power Cable
1 x 2 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Operating System
Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit w/SP1 - inc DVD & Licence
DVD Recovery Media
Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit) DVD with paper sleeve
Office Software
Microsoft® Office 365 Home Premium (12 Month Subscription)
Anti-Virus
BULLGUARD INTERNET SECURITY - FREE 90 DAY TRIAL
Monitor
ASUS VG278HR 27" 144Hz 3D-READY LED (1920 x 1080) + GLASSES
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
PCS EXTRA-CARE DIAMOND DELIVERY - MON-FRI, PRE-NOON
Build Time
FAST TRACK 3 WORKING DAY DISPATCH
Miscellaneous
FREE ASSASSINS CREED BLACK FLAG & MORE with GTX 660 & 7 Series GPUs!
Quantity
1

I will be playing mainly MMO,s (GW2, and Elder Scrolls online in the future) FPS games and Strategy games like Rome 2. I want to be able to play them on max settings. Also I will be using the machine for watching 3D films and playing games in 3D in the future. I will be getting a Corsair Vengeance K75 gaming Keyboard and M95 USB laser gaming Mouse. I've chosen these specs because I'm hoping they will last me 3 years before I have to buy a new machine.
 
keynes

keynes

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The cpu and motherboard are overkill for what you intend to do. With the same budget I could probably get an i5 + 2 x GTX 780s/GTX 770s that will be much better than the spec you posted. The rampage extreme is more suitable for extreme/enthusiast overclockers (playing with voltages, watercooling, liquid nitrogen....) and won't bring any benefits gaming wise compare to cheaper boards unless you are planning to fit in 3 or 4 GPUs which is also not ideal. 8gb RAM is plenty for gaming, higher memory bandwith won't bring any noticeable improvement either. I would save money from fast track and upgrade other parts of your spec like the secondary drive for a caviar black and at least gold warranty.
 
baron75mk2

baron75mk2

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Lools like a great build , but if you want it to be real extreeme , then put a bigger psu (1000w) in there & put another GTX-780 in SLI in there

Do this & you will be stamping over every game in ultra settings & 60fps for a very long time indeed :eek:

Was going to suggest the I5 as well , but being that you play stratagy games , the I7 could be benificial here ,normally I7s are overkill for games but its a little different when it comes to CPU heavy games like mmorpgs & stratagy games .
 
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Grimezy

Grimezy

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Like Keynes said, there are a lot of things that you could cut down on that really isn't necessary for your gaming needs.

I recommend at least upgrading your secondary hard drive to a Caviar Black.
 
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Gunjin

New member
So which should I go for considering I don't plan to buy another computer for 3 years and I need the machine to give me my extreme gaming fix?

Case
COOLERMASTER CM STORM TROOPER - GAMING ENTHUSIAST CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™i7 Quad Core Processor i7-4820K (3.7GHz) 10MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® SABERTOOTH X79: SOCKET 2011, R.O.G
Memory (RAM)
16GB KINGSTON HYPERX BEAST DUAL-DDR3 2400MHz X.M.P (2 x 8GB KIT)
Graphics Card
2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 770 - 2 DVI, HDMI, DP - 3D Vision Ready
2nd Graphics Card
2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 770 - 2 DVI, HDMI, DP - 3D Vision Ready
Memory - 1st Hard Disk
240GB INTEL® 530 SERIES SSD, SATA 6 Gb/s (upto 540MB/sR | 490MB/sW)
2nd Hard Disk
2TB WD CAVIAR BLACK WD2002FAEX, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64MB CACHE (7200rpm)
1st DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
8x BLU-RAY ROM DRIVE, 16x DVD ±R/±RW
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1050W PRO SERIES™ HX1050-80 PLUS® GOLD MODULAR
Processor Cooling
Corsair H60 Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
Creative Sound Blaster Zx 5.1 PCI-E Soundcard
Wireless/Wired Networking
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT - AS STANDARD ON ALL PCs
USB Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 6 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Power Cable
1 x 2 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Operating System
Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit w/SP1 - inc DVD & Licence
DVD Recovery Media
Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit) DVD with paper sleeve
Office Software
Microsoft® Office 365 Home Premium (12 Month Subscription)
Anti-Virus
BULLGUARD INTERNET SECURITY - FREE 90 DAY TRIAL
Warranty
3 Year Gold Warranty (2 Year Collect & Return, 2 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
PCS EXTRA-CARE DIAMOND DELIVERY - MON-FRI, PRE-NOON
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 8 to 10 working days
Miscellaneous
FREE ASSASSINS CREED BLACK FLAG & MORE with GTX 660 & 7 Series GPUs!
Quantity
1

or

Case
COOLERMASTER CM STORM TROOPER - GAMING ENTHUSIAST CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™i5 Quad Core Processor i5-4670K (3.4GHz) 6MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® MAXIMUS VI HERO: PCI-e 3.0, SATA 3.0, USB3.0
Memory (RAM)
16GB KINGSTON HYPERX BEAST DUAL-DDR3 2400MHz X.M.P (2 x 8GB KIT)
Graphics Card
2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 770 - 2 DVI, HDMI, DP - 3D Vision Ready
2nd Graphics Card
2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 770 - 2 DVI, HDMI, DP - 3D Vision Ready
Memory - 1st Hard Disk
240GB KINGSTON HYPERX 3K SSD, SATA 6 Gb/s (upto 555MB/sR | 510MB/sW)
2nd Hard Disk
2TB WD CAVIAR BLACK WD2002FAEX, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64MB CACHE (7200rpm)
1st DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
8x BLU-RAY ROM DRIVE, 16x DVD ±R/±RW
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1050W PRO SERIES™ HX1050-80 PLUS® GOLD MODULAR
Processor Cooling
Corsair H80i Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Sound Card
Creative Sound Blaster Zx 5.1 PCI-E Soundcard
Wireless/Wired Networking
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT - AS STANDARD ON ALL PCs
USB Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 4 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Power Cable
1 x 2 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Operating System
Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit w/SP1 - inc DVD & Licence
DVD Recovery Media
Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit) DVD with paper sleeve
Office Software
Microsoft® Office 365 Home Premium (12 Month Subscription)
Anti-Virus
BULLGUARD INTERNET SECURITY - FREE 90 DAY TRIAL
Warranty
3 Year Gold Warranty (2 Year Collect & Return, 2 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
PCS EXTRA-CARE DIAMOND DELIVERY - MON-FRI, PRE-NOON
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 8 to 10 working days
Miscellaneous
FREE ASSASSINS CREED BLACK FLAG & MORE with GTX 660 & 7 Series GPUs!
Quantity
1
 
baron75mk2

baron75mk2

Banned
Being that you do play mmorpgs & stratagy games , i would go for the sabertooth build

But if cash is no object then push it to 2X-GTX-780s ,

you can save a lot of cash by ditching the SSD , its not needed , all its going to do is give you slightly quicker boot times & loading times
(They are so overpriced for what they do , they do nothing more than a standard HDD does , just a little bit quicker)
(for the money they cost Gig for GIg id want it to be playing the games for me!! - lol )
(they dont last nearly as long as a standard HDD does either)
But you have gone for Caviar blacks anyways so you dont need to worry about loading times - lol

Save the Cash & put it towards the GTX 780s, an overclock on the processor & maybe a better cooler

im not really in to these liquid coolers so the one you have chosen could be adiquate for an overclock i suppose , id just want the best one available for an overclocked I7.

You see 95% of the time I7s & any kind of overclock is a waste of time & money for gaming , but you do play mmorpgs & stratagy games , so that puts you in the 5% that would benifit from an overclock as these games are very CPU dependant generally

If you can put all this together you wont need another pc for a very long time indeed :eek:
 
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keynes

keynes

Multiverse Poster
Gunjin said:
So which should I go for considering I don't plan to buy another computer for 3 years and I need the machine to give me my extreme gaming fix?

Case
COOLERMASTER CM STORM TROOPER - GAMING ENTHUSIAST CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™i7 Quad Core Processor i7-4820K (3.7GHz) 10MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® SABERTOOTH X79: SOCKET 2011, R.O.G
Memory (RAM)
16GB KINGSTON HYPERX BEAST DUAL-DDR3 2400MHz X.M.P (2 x 8GB KIT)
Graphics Card
2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 770 - 2 DVI, HDMI, DP - 3D Vision Ready
2nd Graphics Card
2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 770 - 2 DVI, HDMI, DP - 3D Vision Ready
Memory - 1st Hard Disk
240GB INTEL® 530 SERIES SSD, SATA 6 Gb/s (upto 540MB/sR | 490MB/sW)
2nd Hard Disk
2TB WD CAVIAR BLACK WD2002FAEX, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64MB CACHE (7200rpm)
1st DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
8x BLU-RAY ROM DRIVE, 16x DVD ±R/±RW
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1050W PRO SERIES™ HX1050-80 PLUS® GOLD MODULAR
Processor Cooling
Corsair H60 Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
Creative Sound Blaster Zx 5.1 PCI-E Soundcard
Wireless/Wired Networking
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT - AS STANDARD ON ALL PCs
USB Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 6 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Power Cable
1 x 2 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Operating System
Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit w/SP1 - inc DVD & Licence
DVD Recovery Media
Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit) DVD with paper sleeve
Office Software
Microsoft® Office 365 Home Premium (12 Month Subscription)
Anti-Virus
BULLGUARD INTERNET SECURITY - FREE 90 DAY TRIAL
Warranty
3 Year Gold Warranty (2 Year Collect & Return, 2 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
PCS EXTRA-CARE DIAMOND DELIVERY - MON-FRI, PRE-NOON
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 8 to 10 working days
Miscellaneous
FREE ASSASSINS CREED BLACK FLAG & MORE with GTX 660 & 7 Series GPUs!
Quantity
1

or

Case
COOLERMASTER CM STORM TROOPER - GAMING ENTHUSIAST CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™i5 Quad Core Processor i5-4670K (3.4GHz) 6MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® MAXIMUS VI HERO: PCI-e 3.0, SATA 3.0, USB3.0
Memory (RAM)
16GB KINGSTON HYPERX BEAST DUAL-DDR3 2400MHz X.M.P (2 x 8GB KIT)
Graphics Card
2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 770 - 2 DVI, HDMI, DP - 3D Vision Ready
2nd Graphics Card
2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 770 - 2 DVI, HDMI, DP - 3D Vision Ready
Memory - 1st Hard Disk
240GB KINGSTON HYPERX 3K SSD, SATA 6 Gb/s (upto 555MB/sR | 510MB/sW)
2nd Hard Disk
2TB WD CAVIAR BLACK WD2002FAEX, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64MB CACHE (7200rpm)
1st DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
8x BLU-RAY ROM DRIVE, 16x DVD ±R/±RW
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1050W PRO SERIES™ HX1050-80 PLUS® GOLD MODULAR
Processor Cooling
Corsair H80i Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Sound Card
Creative Sound Blaster Zx 5.1 PCI-E Soundcard
Wireless/Wired Networking
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT - AS STANDARD ON ALL PCs
USB Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 4 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Power Cable
1 x 2 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Operating System
Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit w/SP1 - inc DVD & Licence
DVD Recovery Media
Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit) DVD with paper sleeve
Office Software
Microsoft® Office 365 Home Premium (12 Month Subscription)
Anti-Virus
BULLGUARD INTERNET SECURITY - FREE 90 DAY TRIAL
Warranty
3 Year Gold Warranty (2 Year Collect & Return, 2 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
PCS EXTRA-CARE DIAMOND DELIVERY - MON-FRI, PRE-NOON
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 8 to 10 working days
Miscellaneous
FREE ASSASSINS CREED BLACK FLAG & MORE with GTX 660 & 7 Series GPUs!
Quantity
1
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I would suggest the i5 with a better cpu cooler and 8gb RAM. I haven't seen benchmarks of total war rome 2 but for Shogun Total War there was no noticeable difference between an i7 and an i5.
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2013/06/12/intel-core-i5-4670k-haswell-cpu-review/5
 
Grimezy

Grimezy

Prolific Poster
baron75mk2 said:
you can save a lot of cash by ditching the SSD , its not needed , all its going to do is give you slightly quicker boot times & loading times
(They are so overpriced for what they do , they do nothing more than a standard HDD does , just a little bit quicker)
(for the money they cost Gig for GIg id want it to be playing the games for me!! - lol )
(they dont last nearly as long as a standard HDD does either)
But you have gone for Caviar blacks anyways so you dont need to worry about loading times - lol

Save the Cash & put it towards the GTX 780s, an overclock on the processor & maybe a better cooler
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I assume you're not actually talking from experience and are just making assumptions based on what you've read on the web? An SSD is potentially one of the best upgrades you can make to a rig nowadays especially when you're spending that sort of money on a build.

Having one for your OS and applications makes a lot of sense.
 
baron75mk2

baron75mk2

Banned
Grimezy said:
I assume you're not actually talking from experience and are just making assumptions based on what you've read on the web? An SSD is potentially one of the best upgrades you can make to a rig nowadays especially when you're spending that sort of money on a build.

Having one for your OS and applications makes a lot of sense.
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Reading is one of the best forms of learning people have been doing it for thousands of years & assumtion is the mother of all messups , i dont assume , i do research before i post :eek:

all it does is give you better bootups & loading times - fact
 
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Grimezy

Grimezy

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baron75mk2 said:
all it does is give you better bootups & loading times - fact
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By that logic we might as well all go back to dial-up ;)

And while your statement is technically true, until you've used an SSD, you won't have realised how slow a standard HDD actually is for normal windows use.
 
Boozad

Boozad

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baron75mk2 said:
(they dont last nearly as long as a standard HDD does either)
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That's actually not quite true now, in some cases stress tested Samsung 840s and Intel 520s have outlasted a lot of HDDs of various differemt makes. I can't remember figures or for the life of me find the link, but I'll try and find it. The amount of writes to modern SSDs to render it useless would mean constantly writing - deleting - writing again and again to get it to give up in the standard lifespan of an HDD.
 
Deklore

Deklore

Bright Spark
Grimezy said:
By that logic we might as well all go back to dial-up ;)

And while your statement is technically true, until you've used an SSD, you won't have realised how slow a standard HDD actually is for normal windows use.
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I think there are 2 different points being made here. Overall performance and pure graphical gaming performance.

Generally most people go for an SSD for faster boot and load times, especially if your running a rig of the spec the OP wants.
 
baron75mk2

baron75mk2

Banned
Grimezy said:
By that logic we might as well all go back to dial-up ;)

And while your statement is technically true, until you've used an SSD, you won't have realised how slow a standard HDD actually is for normal windows use.
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Thats just silly & it seems like your just looking for an argument here , the difference is nowhere near the same as dial up Vs braodband & you know it , its better but not my that kind of silly margin - go off & do some research yourself before coming out with silly examples like that.
 
baron75mk2

baron75mk2

Banned
Boozad said:
That's actually not quite true now, in some cases stress tested Samsung 840s and Intel 520s have outlasted a lot of HDDs of various differemt makes. I can't remember figures or for the life of me find the link, but I'll try and find it. The amount of writes to modern SSDs to render it useless would mean constantly writing - deleting - writing again and again to get it to give up in the standard lifespan of an HDD.
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Quite possible these days , like anything they can improve :eek:
 
baron75mk2

baron75mk2

Banned
Deklore said:
Hey Baron, with your setup an SSD is certainly something you could get that would improve overall performance. God knows theres little room for improvement elsewhere! :tt2:
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Thanks , i may get one in the future when the price comes down , its just that these days you can get 2TB for £100 or so & for me the difference in speed between the two is just to small to justify the cost , i think i would like to replace my current HDDs with some caviar blacks , my freind just got one & they are great - i dont know though i do pretty well with the ones i have got , plenty fast enough for me really .

But thank you for the compliment & the suggestion :eek:
 
Grimezy

Grimezy

Prolific Poster
baron75mk2 said:
Thats just silly & it seems like your just looking for an argument here , the difference is nowhere near the same as dial up Vs braodband & you know it , its better but not my that kind of silly margin - go off & do some research yourself before coming out with silly examples like that.
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It was an extreme example yes but you've given advice based on something you've never tried and are only going by what you've read on the internet (I actually thought most articles strongly suggested SSD's nowadays). Why don't you go out and buy an SSD before telling people that they're useless?

I can only speak from personal experience but a month ago by PC was taking anywhere between 5-10 minutes to actually get going using my Caviar Black. And even once it was warmed up it wasn't as snappy as I'd have liked. I bought an SSD as it seemed like the logical thing to do and I fell in love with my PC again. All of a sudden I'm booted up and ready to go after 15-20 seconds, browsing through folders or settings is instant, chrome is speedy and responsive. There is a HUGE change compared to my caviar black.

And at the end of the day, the OP is looking to play things like MMO's, do you really think he's going to see a whole lot of potential from SLI 770's/780's? No, probably not as most MMO's aren't even GPU intensive. But you know what they do have? Lots of loading screens walking into cities or new areas... and you know what helps with loading screens...?
 
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