what is the tgp of the new 30 series graphics cards in laptops?

Bhuna50

Bhuna50

Author Level
As @SpyderTracks says, you will have to check directly with PCS for information on their specific laptops, but some general information about laptop 3000 series GPUs that has been put together by another most valued contributor on these forums can be found here:

RTX 3000 mobile TGP - early discussions

Hey guys, What do you think about the TGP on the new 3000 mobile GPUs? I found some trustable info online (as below) about overall TGPs, but no way of knowing for sure which are the TGPs that PCS (Clevo/Tongfang) will be using until they start shipping and people start reviewing it. So the best...
www.pcspecialist.co.uk www.pcspecialist.co.uk
 
Bhuna50

Bhuna50

Author Level
Nursemorph said:
I could be wrong but I am pretty sure I read something about this from someone on the forum yesterday who contacted PCS about it and they said they didn't know until the chassis' arrived. As I said, I could be wrong though
Click to expand...

I thought I saw something like that but couldn’t find it again.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 
P

Paulbax

Silver Level Poster
Checking the (ionico 17) 3070 Tongfang chassis GM7MG7P on noteb.com (whoever they are?) Suggests 115w...
They only have the 15" in 3080 flavour... again 115w.
Fingers crossed 115w from PCS.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Macco26

Macco26

Expert
In all honesty I don't think it's exactly correct, Spyder.
This is not a Clevo with MXM modules (like the one of mine which broke on december..). This is Tongfang where the GPU is soldered on the motherboard. And the last 2 digits of the model number explain which type of GPU is soldered:
GM7MG7P -> 7P = RTX3070 with Max-P
As this chassis is recorded by the noteb website to have 1560 Mhz max boost, it means it's specc'ed as like as all the others Tongfang chassis with RTX3070. Follow pic taken from a review of another RTX 3070 with same boost clock (laptop w/ slightly different model number, as it is for Zen3, hence the PCIe x8 only lanes). RTX 3070 capable of 1560 Mhz delivers max 125W + 15W DB2.0:
1612539941854.png

There should not be possible to have another wattage with that same Model number GM7MG7P. That's my guess, at the least.
I hope I am correct as I am awaiting that precise model here and will soon-ish know the truth.
 
Last edited:
SpyderTracks

SpyderTracks

We love you Ukraine
Macco26 said:
In all honesty I don't think it's exactly correct, Spyder.
This is not a Clevo with MXM modules (like the one of mine which broke on december..). This is Tongfang where the GPU is soldered on the motherboard. And the last 2 digits of the model number explain which type of GPU is soldered:
GM7MG7P -> 7P = RTX3070 with Max-P
As this chassis is recorded by the noteb website to have 1560 Mhz max boost, it means it's specc'ed as like as all the others Tongfang chassis with RTX3070. Follow pic taken from a review of another RTX 3070 with same boost clock (laptop w/ slightly different model number, as it is for Zen3, hence the PCIe x8 only lanes). RTX 3070 capable of 1560 Mhz delivers max 125W + 15W DB2.0:
View attachment 22044
There should not be possible to have another wattage with that same Model number GM7MG7P. That's my guess, at the least.
I hope I am correct as I am awaiting that precise model here and will soon-ish know the truth.tually changes name (last 2 digit) to represent which GPU is soldered
Click to expand...
My point is, we don't know which chassis models that PCS are going to be stocking, they haven't stated as yet.

TongFang will make a range of chassis likely with each different configuration, and then it's up to SI's which ones they stock.

We can assume many things, but that would be unwise before getting confirmation on which chassis PCS are stocking.
 
Macco26

Macco26

Expert
As far as I remember in one of the latest configuration thread someone posted yesterday or the day before about the Ionico the PCS configuration specified this particular Model number among the rows: GM7MG7P so that's reassuring PCS are using THAT chassis with 125W+ RTX 3070.

Weirdly enough in my configuration preorder the chassis is just named after "Ionico 17", without an actual Tongfang model number like the above, but I made it trhu the pcspecialist.it, so that might be a lack of this info in the configurator for italian, or PCS added this additioanl info later along the road (I preordered mine the 27th).

I definitely think they're gonna ship the GM7MG7P to anyone buying the Ionico 17 with RTX 3070 (me included, do hope, lol).
Don't know much about the RTX 3060 but I've seen GM7MG0P could be the chassis for that config (don't know the GPU rated for that).
 
P

Paulbax

Silver Level Poster
Macco26 said:
As far as I remember in one of the latest configuration thread someone posted yesterday or the day before about the Ionico the PCS configuration specified this particular Model number among the rows: GM7MG7P so that's reassuring PCS are using THAT chassis with 125W+ RTX 3070.

Weirdly enough in my configuration preorder the chassis is just named after "Ionico 17", without an actual Tongfang model number like the above, but I made it trhu the pcspecialist.it, so that might be a lack of this info in the configurator for italian, or PCS added this additioanl info later along the road (I preordered mine the 27th).

I definitely think they're gonna ship the GM7MG7P to anyone buying the Ionico 17 with RTX 3070 (me included, do hope, lol).
Don't know much about the RTX 3060 but I've seen GM7MG0P could be the chassis for that config (don't know the GPU rated for that).
Click to expand...
Yes. Nursemorph kindly ran the quotes for me with the following chassis data from PCS:

Ionico 15": TongFang GM5MG0Y (6GB RTX-3060, i7-10875H, 165Hz QHD, Blank KB)
Ionico 15": TongFang GM5MG7Y (8GB RTX-3070, i7-10875H, 165Hz QHD, Blank KB)

Ionico 17": TongFang GM7MG0P (6GB RTX-3060, i7-10875H, 165Hz QHD, Blank KB)
Ionico 17": TongFang GM7MG7P (8GB RTX-3070, i7-10875H, 165Hz QHD, Blank KB)

Also. If you are correct ref the chassis numbers that 7P is 3070 Max-P? Please excuse my lack of knowledge but isn't that better than basic 3070 and more so than Max-Q? I.e the better of the options?
 
Macco26

Macco26

Expert
Max-P in 2020 meant the maximum performance. Newer RTX 30 cards have lost this connotation but many vendors (including PCS for their Clevo) uses Max-P and Max-Q to show if their lineup of RTX is on the higher end of the NVIDIA range wattage or the lower.
Those Tongangs are at the higher, but still their Power Limit can be lowered at will with their newest Control Center.

No laptop with RTX3070 can go higher than 125W + 15 Dynamic boost 2.0 unless exceeding NVIDIA spec with unofficial overclocking.
 
Bhuna50

Bhuna50

Author Level
Macco26 said:
Max-P in 2020 meant the maximum performance. Newer RTX 30 cards have lost this connotation but many vendors (including PCS for their Clevo) uses Max-P and Max-Q to show if their lineup of RTX is on the higher end of the NVIDIA range wattage or the lower.
Those Tongangs are at the higher, but still their Power Limit can be lowered at will with their newest Control Center.

No laptop with RTX3070 can go higher than 125W + 15 Dynamic boost 2.0 unless exceeding NVIDIA spec with unofficial overclocking.
Click to expand...

I didn’t think PCS have got Max-P mentioned on any of their RTX 30 series laptop GPUs. Only MaxQ.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 
Macco26

Macco26

Expert
Ye, they only added the note Max-Q where not putting it would have hurt their credibilty. At least that's fair I guess. MSI and others have done a worse job during this days.
 
Martinr36

Martinr36

MOST VALUED CONTRIBUTOR
From what I've read in various places i was under the impression that Nvidia had done away with the P & Q designations and that they were just selling one spec card which was basically mthe Q but it was up to the various different card suppliers exactly what bits they implimented
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top