Any 3D game crashes my entire pc.

Iraklis Pazios

Bronze Level Poster
I'll do that today. Thank you for the help. I also wanted to add that normally I don't get a BSOD when my PC crashes, I've gotten those after I had to restart my PC because of the other black screen crashes. Crashes causes other crashes, it's insane.
 

ubuysa

The BSOD Doctor
I'll do that today. Thank you for the help. I also wanted to add that normally I don't get a BSOD when my PC crashes, I've gotten those after I had to restart my PC because of the other black screen crashes. Crashes causes other crashes, it's insane.
RAM would be an obvious place to start even without the dumps, it never ceases to amaze me the range of seemingly unrelated problems that can be traced back to flaky RAM. :)
 

Iraklis Pazios

Bronze Level Poster
It looks like a similar issue that another user had on this thread:

https://www.pcspecialist.ie/forums/threads/optimus-xi-full-system-crash-issue.72708/

You could try a good amount of undervolting on the GPU just to see if it makes any difference, as it improved a bit for that user. I know it's not a solution, but just to check if the issue is the same or not.
Sorry for the very late reply. I have tried to undervolt and under clock my gpu. Both had lead to crashing my pc the same way as opening any 3d game. I tried to under clock it by 200mhz if memory serves well. The moment I click apply on gigabyte's software (i cannot remember the name of the software but there were two of them, and I cannot find them on mobile) the pc would crash. However the softwares would immediately state I was overclocking the GPU on startup, without me ever touching them. Which means the GPU of the laptop shipped overclocked or superclocked. I don't know if that had anything to do with the crashes, but it's something to think about. Also I did run the memtest86 program right before my laptop was taken for its rma, and it concluded with 0 errors after its 4 stage testing.
 

FerrariVie

Super Star
Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you were using gigabyte's software to undervolt, you probably were doing it on the CPU. To do the same on the GPU, you need to use MSI Afterburner.

But anyway, since you've already RMA'ed it back to PCS, that was the best thing to do (y)
 

Iraklis Pazios

Bronze Level Poster
So, how long does it take for an RMA to complete. They've had my laptop for two weeks and the only update I've gotten is "we have received your pc and will update when we start looking at it". This is seriously unacceptable.
 

Iraklis Pazios

Bronze Level Poster
Unofrtunately no-one here has access to PCS systems, RMA queues etc so we couldn't even speculate on how long. It's entirely possible they have started looking at it but the system has just not been updated yet...maybe they update you once they find a fault? Speculation unfortunately. All I can suggest is to give them a call. You could try posting on the Discord channel maybe...I know PCS staff frequent that a lot more than they frequent this forum so they may be able to give you an idea on time frames currently
Apparently I'll have to wait another week. Almost a month for them to just start looking at it? I guess I can expect it back by christmas, if at all.
 

SpyderTracks

We love you Ukraine
Apparently I'll have to wait another week. Almost a month for them to just start looking at it? I guess I can expect it back by christmas, if at all.
If you’re unaware, you’re in one of the busiest times in custom PC equipment history quite literally, I’m not overstating that.

1. One of the most significant GPU launches for 20 years
2. One of the most significant CPU launches since 2005
3. Covid impacting worldwide manufacturing and logistics networks.
4. Everyone buying IT equipment due to remote working.

Look at almost ANY Tech launch over recent months, absolutely everything is a. Delayed, and b. In short supplies.

I’m afraid you just have to realise you’re one of many and there are significant delays now and for the foreseeable future. It’s not just PCS affected, it’s every single systems integrator, every single tech manufacturer and a huge swathe of the public needing tech stuff NOW.

You just need to be patient.
 

Iraklis Pazios

Bronze Level Poster
If you’re unaware, you’re in one of the busiest times in custom PC equipment history quite literally, I’m not overstating that.

1. One of the most significant GPU launches for 20 years
2. One of the most significant CPU launches since 2005
3. Covid impacting worldwide manufacturing and logistics networks.
4. Everyone buying IT equipment due to remote working.

Look at almost ANY Tech launch over recent months, absolutely everything is a. Delayed, and b. In short supplies.

I’m afraid you just have to realise you’re one of many and there are significant delays now and for the foreseeable future. It’s not just PCS affected, it’s every single systems integrator, every single tech manufacturer and a huge swathe of the public needing tech stuff NOW.

You just need to be patient.
I appreciate the help you've given me before but I do not appreciate the condescension. I still hold it that waiting a month for your pc to even be looked at is taking things too far. My warranty may legitimately end before they look at it. And even if they won't charge me further, that is a sign of a very broken system. I don't hold sympathy for companies. Only people.
 

Iraklis Pazios

Bronze Level Poster
I finally got news. Unfortunately my worst nightmare came true. The person checking my laptop said he couldn't replicate the issue. So either he didn't check it at all since all it took was to open any 3d game for it to crash, or he did and the crash just decided to not happen to him just out of luck and I'll get it back with the same issues as when it left. I guess pc gaming just doesn't like me.
 

ubuysa

The BSOD Doctor
I finally got news. Unfortunately my worst nightmare came true. The person checking my laptop said he couldn't replicate the issue. So either he didn't check it at all since all it took was to open any 3d game for it to crash, or he did and the crash just decided to not happen to him just out of luck and I'll get it back with the same issues as when it left. I guess pc gaming just doesn't like me.
It would have been better had you found a specific game that caused the crash and advised PCS exactly how to reproduce the issue with that game.

PCS just don't have the time trying every single 3D game they can find in the hope they can reproduce the problem. They have to know precisely how to reproduce it through detailed instructions from you.

However, if PCS couldn't reproduce your issue on their bench then you have to ask yourself what the environmental differences are between PCS's bench and your home. These might range from power supply issues, through to radio frequency interference.

I would suggest that when it comes back you take it to an entirely different location well away from your home and try to replicate the problem there.
 

Iraklis Pazios

Bronze Level Poster
It would have been better had you found a specific game that caused the crash and advised PCS exactly how to reproduce the issue with that game.

PCS just don't have the time trying every single 3D game they can find in the hope they can reproduce the problem. They have to know precisely how to reproduce it through detailed instructions from you.

However, if PCS couldn't reproduce your issue on their bench then you have to ask yourself what the environmental differences are between PCS's bench and your home. These might range from power supply issues, through to radio frequency interference.

I would suggest that when it comes back you take it to an entirely different location well away from your home and try to replicate the problem there.
In the RMA i did specify in the instructions on how to recreate the problem. Specifically directing to the 3 games that caused the problems first. Those being dark souls 2,dark souls 3 and monster hunter world, all of which were on the desktop and I provided all the info needed to launch them. That's why I'm almost sure they didn't check them or there might have been some kind of unlucky twist of fate.

I moved from my house about two weeks after getting the laptop so I was fortunate enough to see it not work in both places. My previous home had practically no mobile signal, it was at the edge of a small village, so interference seems unlikely. Even when unplugging my WiFi, it still crashed. The new home I'm in is quite different so I don't think those are the problems either.
 

barlew

Godlike
In the RMA i did specify in the instructions on how to recreate the problem. Specifically directing to the 3 games that caused the problems first. Those being dark souls 2,dark souls 3 and monster hunter world, all of which were on the desktop and I provided all the info needed to launch them. That's why I'm almost sure they didn't check them or there might have been some kind of unlucky twist of fate.

I moved from my house about two weeks after getting the laptop so I was fortunate enough to see it not work in both places. My previous home had practically no mobile signal, it was at the edge of a small village, so interference seems unlikely. Even when unplugging my WiFi, it still crashed. The new home I'm in is quite different so I don't think those are the problems either.
This is incredibly frustrating and I know exactly how you feel. I had a Vortex in 2012 that would overheat and turn off before it would even boot into Windows. I sent it in for repair and I was told no fault could be found. Funny old thing I got it back and low and behold the fault was still there. I sent it back to PCS and they fixed it second time round.

Any way all you can do now is wait and test it when it gets back to you. I would hope that the technician genuinely could not replicate the fault and some freakish admin error hasn't occurred. You never know it may be working when you get it. Fingers crossed.

@ubuysa suggestion of trying the PC in a different room is a pretty good shout as well. If your power socket for example is providing an unstable supply to the PC it could well crash the computer when the GPU starts drawing more power.
 

Iraklis Pazios

Bronze Level Poster
It would have been better had you found a specific game that caused the crash and advised PCS exactly how to reproduce the issue with that game.

PCS just don't have the time trying every single 3D game they can find in the hope they can reproduce the problem. They have to know precisely how to reproduce it through detailed instructions from you.

However, if PCS couldn't reproduce your issue on their bench then you have to ask yourself what the environmental differences are between PCS's bench and your home. These might range from power supply issues, through to radio frequency interference.

I would suggest that when it comes back you take it to an entirely different location well away from your home and try to replicate the problem there.
Also if it was a power supply problem, that'd be easily replicable since I supplied PCS with mine, so they'd happen to them as well. And since I have taken the laptop to numerous places, it's not my house's power malfunctioning either.
 

ubuysa

The BSOD Doctor
Also if it was a power supply problem, that'd be easily replicable since I supplied PCS with mine, so they'd happen to them as well. And since I have taken the laptop to numerous places, it's not my house's power malfunctioning either.
Then you need to ask further what the differences are between what PCS were able to do and what you do.
 

barlew

Godlike
Did you ever run any benchmarking software like Aida64, Cinebench, 3DMark, Furmark or Unigene Heaven?
 
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