Wondering if its a good build

[Hailtothedoge]

Hi all,

Just configuring a pc and i'm wondering if what i've selected looks good and has no conflicts /bad flow ect
Case
FRACTAL DEFINE 7 BLACK QUIET MID-TOWER CASE
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Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i7 16-Core Processor i7-13700KF (3.4GHz) 30MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG STRIX Z690-F GAMING WIFI (LGA1700, USB 3.2, PCIe 5.0) - ARGB Ready
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 4800MHz (1 x 32GB)
Graphics Card
24GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 4090 - HDMI, DP
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB SAMSUNG 990 PRO M.2, PCIe 4.0 NVMe (up to 7450MB/R, 6900MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB SOLIDIGM P41+ GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 3500MB/sR, 1625MB/sW)
1st Storage Drive
2TB Samsung 870 QVO 2.5" SSD, SATA 6Gb/s (up to 560MB/sR | 530MB/sW)
1st Storage Drive
4TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 5400RPM, 256MB CACHE
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAM
Memory Card Reader
USB 3.0 EXTERNAL SD/MICRO SD CARD READER
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1000W RMx SERIES™ - MODULAR 80 PLUS GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
CORSAIR iCUE H150i ELITE CAPELLIX XT RGB High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Extra Case Fans
1 x 120mm Black Case Fan
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
2.5G ETHERNET PCI-EXPRESS CARD (10/100/1000M/2.5G) (1 x RJ45)
USB/Thunderbolt Options
2 PORT (1 x TYPE A, 1 x TYPE C) USB 3.1 PCI-E CARD + STANDARD USB PORTS

im sure the config would tell me but just wanted to ask for a second opinion

 

[TonyCarter]

I can see some obvious oversights, but will need more info to say whether it's suitable.

See this for the sort of info we need...

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[Hailtothedoge]

I can see some obvious oversights, but will need more info to say whether it's suitable.

See this for the sort of info we need...

Please read before posting:- Collaboration of Helpful Hints

NB: These forums are not an official support channel. None of us work for PCS, we're all either customers or techies who just like to help out where possible. For any official support, you need to contact PCS directly either through your PCS account, or via the contact details on the main...

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Hi,

Monitor is currently unpurchased but looking at

MSI G272CQP Curved Gaming Monitor - 27 Inch 1440p​

I want this pc for gaming but im interested in making it last me at least 7 ish or so years without having to worry about upgrading again. so i know what i have on here is overkill but thats what i thought originally about my current 1080 too. i just wanna max all my games out and not have to worry about it for many many years.


budget is about 4k, currently pc comes to 3,814.00. im not including monitor in budget currently.

The sdd lay out i will prob review

 

[TonyCarter]

The configurator will only tell you what's incompatible, not whether something is 'good' or 'bad'...so it will never tell you that a 13th Gen CPU is really hot and needs a higher quality/capacity AIO cooler because the TDP figure from Intel is a load of BS.

The current thinking is to go with the latest AMD CPUs...specifically the 7800x3D (which comes out next week I believe) if gaming is your main concern. It's not just the gaming performance that points towards AMD, but it's also because they're on a new socket and expect to get 2 or 3 more generations of CPU out these sockets...whereas Intel will be jumping to another socket with 14th Gen. Not a concern if you never plan on updating the CPU in the next 5 years...but something to factor in.

A config with the 7900x3D as a more expensive proxy for the currently unavailable 7800x3D would look something like this...but it is complete overkill for 1440p...and I'm sure some of my esteemed helper-elves will point out that you can get an excellent 1440p build for much less than this

Case
FRACTAL DEFINE 7 BLACK QUIET MID-TOWER CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 9 7900X3D 12 Core CPU (4.4GHz-5.6GHz/140MB w/ 3D V-CACHE/AM5)
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG STRIX X670E-A GAMING WIFI (WIFI 6E, DDR5, PCIe 5.0)
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB DDR5 6000MHz (2 x 16GB) AMD
Graphics Card
24GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 4090 - HDMI, DP
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 6900MB/R, 5000MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB SOLIDIGM P41+ GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 4125MB/sR, 3325MB/sW)
1st Storage Drive
2TB Samsung 870 QVO 2.5" SSD, SATA 6Gb/s (up to 560MB/sR | 530MB/sW)
1st Storage Drive
4TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 5400RPM, 256MB CACHE
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAM
Memory Card Reader
USB 3.0 EXTERNAL SD/MICRO SD CARD READER
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1200W HX SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® PLATINUM, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead, 1.0mm Core)
Processor Cooling
CORSAIR iCUE H150i ELITE CAPELLIX XT RGB High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
2 PORT (1 x TYPE A, 1 x TYPE C) USB 3.1 PCI-E CARD + STANDARD USB PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00003]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 13 to 16 working days
Price: £3,874.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am5-pc/TysNbv5CFb/

This board can take 4 x m.2 SSDs, so you may want to swap out the 2TB 870 Evo with another 2TB Solidigm (which is about 20% cheaper as well)...but would probably have to do it directly with PCS chat as the configurator doesn't allow a 3rd m.2

 

[Hailtothedoge]

The configurator will only tell you what's incompatible, not whether something is 'good' or 'bad'...so it will never tell you that a 13th Gen CPU is really hot and needs a higher quality/capacity AIO cooler because the TDP figure from Intel is a load of BS.

The current thinking is to go with the latest AMD CPUs...specifically the 7800x3D (which comes out next week I believe) if gaming is your main concern. It's not just the gaming performance that points towards AMD, but it's also because they're on a new socket and expect to get 2 or 3 more generations of CPU out these sockets...whereas Intel will be jumping to another socket with 14th Gen. Not a concern if you never plan on updating the CPU in the next 5 years...but something to factor in.

A config with the 7900x3D as a more expensive proxy for the currently unavailable 7800x3D would look something like this...but it is complete overkill for 1440p...and I'm sure some of my esteemed helper-elves will point out that you can get an excellent 1440p build for much less than this

Case
FRACTAL DEFINE 7 BLACK QUIET MID-TOWER CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 9 7900X3D 12 Core CPU (4.4GHz-5.6GHz/140MB w/ 3D V-CACHE/AM5)
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG STRIX X670E-A GAMING WIFI (WIFI 6E, DDR5, PCIe 5.0)
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB DDR5 6000MHz (2 x 16GB) AMD
Graphics Card
24GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 4090 - HDMI, DP
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 6900MB/R, 5000MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB SOLIDIGM P41+ GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 4125MB/sR, 3325MB/sW)
1st Storage Drive
2TB Samsung 870 QVO 2.5" SSD, SATA 6Gb/s (up to 560MB/sR | 530MB/sW)
1st Storage Drive
4TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 5400RPM, 256MB CACHE
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAM
Memory Card Reader
USB 3.0 EXTERNAL SD/MICRO SD CARD READER
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1200W HX SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® PLATINUM, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead, 1.0mm Core)
Processor Cooling
CORSAIR iCUE H150i ELITE CAPELLIX XT RGB High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
2 PORT (1 x TYPE A, 1 x TYPE C) USB 3.1 PCI-E CARD + STANDARD USB PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00003]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 13 to 16 working days
Price: £3,874.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am5-pc/TysNbv5CFb/

This board can take 4 x m.2 SSDs, so you may want to swap out the 2TB 870 Evo with another 2TB Solidigm (which is about 20% cheaper as well)...but would probably have to do it directly with PCS chat as the configurator doesn't allow a 3rd m.2

I might get some flack for this but when i see amd i get really off put, any time i see discussions or when im looking at game forums theres always issues that are specific to amd and that just scares me! Have they improved recently?

As for the heat issue, its good to know, i would have thought the cooling would be sufficient but was unaware of the 13 spicyness. Very helpful since my pc will be in the warmest room in the house.

For the ram, does 6000 - 4800 make a big difference?

And is 1200 psu needed for the 4090? I didn't realise it was such a hog!

For the m.2, its fine, i actually have two 1tb sitting in a box that ive not used yet so those will get used, and somehow i always seem to fill up any space i have avaliable! Digital horde lol.

 

[SpyderTracks]

I might get some flack for this but when i see amd i get really off put, any time i see discussions or when im looking at game forums theres always issues that are specific to amd and that just scares me! Have they improved recently?

AMD are now the forerunners in gaming, Intel are the ones in the distance. Plus intels are literally impossible to cool, without cryogenic cooling, you literally can't get the 13900k to perform without thermal throttling and hence you'll never get peak performance.

For the ram, does 6000 - 4800 make a big difference?

Huge difference, it's a significant upgrade.

And is 1200 psu needed for the 4090? I didn't realise it was such a hog!

The 4090 draws up to 600W, then you have to factor in Transient spikes which is 2 x max draw, so 1200W just to allow for the GPU, that is until we get the brand new ATX 3 power supplies which accomodate for transient spikes

For the m.2, its fine, i actually have two 1tb sitting in a box that ive not used yet so those will get used, and somehow i always seem to fill up any space i have avaliable! Digital horde lol.

Do you know what Gen they are? There's a huge difference (double) between gen 3 and gen 4

 

[TonyCarter]

Yes, AMD has been good since the 3x00 series (Zen 2) and Intel just seems to boost their speeds by adding more power into their cores and using false TDP numbers to compare favourably with AMD's TDP numbers. Neither are 100% the truth, but AMDs are much closer to real world figures than Intel (all the way back to the 10th gen).

The 13900 is the volcanic chip...but Intel refuses to acknowledge this and insists that melting mounts & motherboard is 'by design'. The 13700 is cooler, but not cool enough for an air-cooler in any case, never mind in a lower-airflow 'quiet' case. The H150i would be fine for either the 13700 or 7800x3D (or any AMD CPU for that matter).

Yes, the RAM can make a 10% difference (if going from 4800MHz to 6000MHz) to the FPS you'll see in some games...and it's a relatively cheap gain.

The 1200W PSU is to mitigate the 'transient spike' issues that some of the latest GPUs are triggering. I don't believe there's any lasting damage to decent PSUs and it likely just cause a crash, BSOD or restart. But it also gives you some headroom if you decide to upgrade to a 6090x3D GPU in 3 year's time to chase high FPS 4K (or 8K).

As for the m.2s, you'll be able to easily fit them into the available slots.

 

[Hailtothedoge]

AMD are now the forerunners in gaming, Intel are the ones in the distance. Plus intels are literally impossible to cool, without cryogenic cooling, you literally can't get the 13900k to perform without thermal throttling and hence you'll never get peak performance.


Huge difference, it's a significant upgrade.


The 4090 draws up to 600W, then you have to factor in Transient spikes which is 2 x max draw, so 1200W just to allow for the GPU, that is until we get the brand new ATX 3 power supplies which accomodate for transient spikes

Do you know what Gen they are? There's a huge difference (double) between gen 3 and gen 4

Good to know about the power spikes, definitely did not know about the double requirement. ill pop in the better ram then! thank you

 

[Hailtothedoge]

Yes, AMD has been good since the 3x00 series (Zen 2) and Intel just seems to boost their speeds by adding more power into their cores and using false TDP numbers to compare favourably with AMD's TDP numbers. Neither are 100% the truth, but AMDs are much closer to real world figures than Intel (all the way back to the 10th gen).

The 13900 is the volcanic chip...but Intel refuses to acknowledge this and insists that melting mounts & motherboard is 'by design'. The 13700 is cooler, but not cool enough for an air-cooler in any case, never mind in a lower-airflow 'quiet' case. The H150i would be fine for either the 13700 or 7800x3D (or any AMD CPU for that matter).

Yes, the RAM can make a 10% difference (if going from 4800MHz to 6000MHz) to the FPS you'll see in some games...and it's a relatively cheap gain.

The 1200W PSU is to mitigate the 'transient spike' issues that some of the latest GPUs are triggering. I don't believe there's any lasting damage to decent PSUs and it likely just cause a crash, BSOD or restart. But it also gives you some headroom if you decide to upgrade to a 6090x3D GPU in 3 year's time to chase high FPS 4K (or 8K).

As for the m.2s, you'll be able to easily fit them into the available slots.

So ive been looking at the amd cpus and the 9 7900X3D seems to have middling reviews. the bad reviews for the cpu might have been about price at release. not sure., however, the 9 7950X looks good and comes with jedi survivor so might be a good replacement. also has a few more cores


I thought the h150i had some sort of liquid cooling to not just air? I might be miss understand how it works. would it be better to go for the liquid-cooled pcs in that case?

The m.2 are the 970 plus Samsung so they should be fine for what i need.

Thank you both for your help on this, i am understanding a bit more and realising my intel bias lol

 

[Scott]

The key to the reviews is value. The 7950X3D is the king of the hill. The 7900X3D will come second for gaming at the moment. The value key is that you lose gaming and performance headroom with that £150 drop. £150 is a lot of money but it's marginal when considering builds in the £4k region, that's the main reason why the reviews are mixed. It's a great chip, but there's no real merit/value to it considering the platform cost.

You've suggested the 7950X. At the moment this is great value for what you get, but with gaming considered it's not really where we would suggest you go. For gaming the soon to be released 7800X3D is likely to lay waste to it. The 7950X is an amazing chip with amazing value, but you need to be making use of its intended purpose to consider it a worthwhile investment. Similar to the 7900X3D, there's no gaming merit to the 7950X IMO, there's not going to be a lot between it and the 7900 or 7700 chips.... not at this level (1440p/4k gaming).

It's an unknown right now, but my guess is that the 7800X3D is going to balance all this out. The assumption is that it's been held back in order to sell as many 7900X3D and 7950X3D chips to gamers as possible before it's release and making them redundant.

So, my advice is to hold off for the 7800X3D. By this point you will know the lay of the land and be able to make an informed decision. Before this release, I think the 7950X3D is the most sensible gaming choice, even though it's costly.

Everything else about the build suggested above is spot on IMO. The 7900X3D is a good placeholder, with the expected price to reduce.

The only other things I would consider are the GPU and your storage selection. For the GPU the 4070Ti would be overkill, but a fair luxury spend. I'd save a ton and opt for this GPU. With the storage, I would aim higher with the secondary M2 drive and forego the rest of the storage. There's no need purely for gaming.

 

[SpyderTracks]

So ive been looking at the amd cpus and the 9 7900X3D seems to have middling reviews. the bad reviews for the cpu might have been about price at release. not sure., however, the 9 7950X looks good and comes with jedi survivor so might be a good replacement. also has a few more cores


I thought the h150i had some sort of liquid cooling to not just air? I might be miss understand how it works. would it be better to go for the liquid-cooled pcs in that case?

The m.2 are the 970 plus Samsung so they should be fine for what i need.

Thank you both for your help on this, i am understanding a bit more and realising my intel bias lol

You have to be careful where you're looking, places like CPUBenchmark or UserBenchmark are propaganda sites, they don't bench anything, they're lies from start to finish and have been banned on most tech forums around the world because of this

Userbenchmark new tantrum on upcoming Ryzen 7000

So based on some early benchmark performance numbers of the 7600x, Userbenchmark have seriously thrown in the towel. Looks like they'll be doing what they did with the 3000 series Ryzen and changing their scoring to make Intel more relevant "because Ryzen is too fast". It's so rediculous you...

www.pcspecialist.co.uk

AMD Vs Intel

So some of you aren't aware of the reasons why so many people are heading away from Intel to AMD, so thought it would be important to lay that out for people to refer back to. A lot of you will go to cpubenchmark or userbenchmark to find performance metrics for CPU's. These sites are complete...

www.pcspecialist.co.uk

 

[Hailtothedoge]

The key to the reviews is value. The 7950X3D is the king of the hill. The 7900X3D will come second for gaming at the moment. The value key is that you lose gaming and performance headroom with that £150 drop. £150 is a lot of money but it's marginal when considering builds in the £4k region, that's the main reason why the reviews are mixed. It's a great chip, but there's no real merit/value to it considering the platform cost.

You've suggested the 7950X. At the moment this is great value for what you get, but with gaming considered it's not really where we would suggest you go. For gaming the soon to be released 7800X3D is likely to lay waste to it. The 7950X is an amazing chip with amazing value, but you need to be making use of its intended purpose to consider it a worthwhile investment. Similar to the 7900X3D, there's no gaming merit to the 7950X IMO, there's not going to be a lot between it and the 7900 or 7700 chips.... not at this level (1440p/4k gaming).

It's an unknown right now, but my guess is that the 7800X3D is going to balance all this out. The assumption is that it's been held back in order to sell as many 7900X3D and 7950X3D chips to gamers as possible before it's release and making them redundant.

So, my advice is to hold off for the 7800X3D. By this point you will know the lay of the land and be able to make an informed decision. Before this release, I think the 7950X3D is the most sensible gaming choice, even though it's costly.

Everything else about the build suggested above is spot on IMO. The 7900X3D is a good placeholder, with the expected price to reduce.

The only other things I would consider are the GPU and your storage selection. For the GPU the 4070Ti would be overkill, but a fair luxury spend. I'd save a ton and opt for this GPU. With the storage, I would aim higher with the secondary M2 drive and forego the rest of the storage. There's no need purely for gaming.

I will admit, alot of this is going over my head and im finding amd naming conventions are much more difficult to remember lol.

So from what i understand, 7800 is going to be the next big cpu, so wait for that and get the 7950x3d cheeper once the new one is out? i think?


for the gpu i think ill meet in the middle and get the 4080.

 

[Hailtothedoge]

You have to be careful where you're looking, places like CPUBenchmark or UserBenchmark are propaganda sites, they don't bench anything, they're lies from start to finish and have been banned on most tech forums around the world because of this

Userbenchmark new tantrum on upcoming Ryzen 7000

So based on some early benchmark performance numbers of the 7600x, Userbenchmark have seriously thrown in the towel. Looks like they'll be doing what they did with the 3000 series Ryzen and changing their scoring to make Intel more relevant "because Ryzen is too fast". It's so rediculous you...

www.pcspecialist.co.uk

AMD Vs Intel

So some of you aren't aware of the reasons why so many people are heading away from Intel to AMD, so thought it would be important to lay that out for people to refer back to. A lot of you will go to cpubenchmark or userbenchmark to find performance metrics for CPU's. These sites are complete...

www.pcspecialist.co.uk

Oh wow i was not aware of this at all! that sucks cus ive used that site so much. is there any good sites that offer visual comparisons like they do that are not propaganda?

 

[Hailtothedoge]

one other question i have is case, there seems to only be the

FRACTAL DEFINE 7 cases​

That seem to be available to fit the 40xx series, would it be better to send something custom in this case? or is there a way to get more options? ive heard that the fractal can have airflow issues and since all these parts seem to get hot maybe its not the best idea?

 

[TonyCarter]

The naming conventions is 'relatively' simple.

The higher the number the better...in general. But then the x3D models add extra, very fast cache to process stuff much more quickly. They cost more than their non-x3D counterparts, but are usually faster than their non-x3D family members up the chain in certain tasks (usually gaming and CPU-intensive tasks).

So 7800X or 7800X3D:

• [7] generation/model year
• [8] tier identifier
• [0] segment (0 normally consumer / 5 normally server)
• [0] segment (0 normally desktop / 5 normally laptop)
• [X / X3D] X = faster clock/boost speeds than non-X; 3D = 3d cache for extra zip

The confusion comes when we recommend an x3D CPU of a lower tier than a non-X3D CPU of a higher tier...and that's simply down to the difference between total number of cores vs more of the very fast cache. If you have an app that uses only a couple of cores, then more won't speed it up...but more fast cache will...but if you have an app that uses ALL cores ALL of the time, then the X3D cache speed boost may not outweigh the benefit of the extra cores.

It's not much different to how Intel's numbering works...e.g. i7 13700K

• [i7] tier/model identifier
• [13]th generation
• [7xx] product level (higher the number, higher the 'performance')
• [K] product type (to show whether it's unlocked for overclocking, low-power/mobile, with iGPU, without iGPU, etc.)

Intel® Processor Names, Numbers and Generation List

Understanding Intel® processor names and numbers helps identify the best laptop, desktop, or mobile device CPU for your computing needs.

www.intel.co.uk

 

[Martinr36]

[K] product type (to show whether it's unlocked for overclocking, low-power/mobile, with iGPU, without iGPU, etc.)

That's the main bit that really confuses me with intel, I can never remember what all the letters mean, which ones have integrated graphics etc, at least with AMD if they have integrated graphics they just stick a G on the end, simple

 

[TonyCarter]

That's the main bit that really confuses me with intel, I can never remember what all the letters mean, which ones have integrated graphics etc, at least with AMD if they have integrated graphics they just stick a G on the end, simple

Except the new ones, which all have iGPU - confused yet

 

[Hailtothedoge]

So i think im set aside from case and gpu, everything else feels good currently. still debating if i need a 4090 but would like future proofing and i wanna max out games like rdr2 and Warhammer 3, star wars survivor ect so im not sure...Never thought configuring a pc would make me as indecisive as this!!

 

[Scott]

There's always a new GPU coming around the corner. There's no way to future proof a GPU as the new technology is introduced making them obsolete. The best way to future proof a GPU is to get exactly what you need to the spec you need for now, and save any additional cash to put towards the next generation when it feels right. The 40 series isn't a great generation of cards IMO. I'm expecting better results from the 50 series cards (or whatever it's going to be called), so better to save the money and get one of those at the same level.

This is the importance of a good base system, you want to make it allow for GPU updates and keeping up with new technologies. With this mindset, a gaming system should last 10 years.

 

[Hailtothedoge]

There's always a new GPU coming around the corner. There's no way to future proof a GPU as the new technology is introduced making them obsolete. The best way to future proof a GPU is to get exactly what you need to the spec you need for now, and save any additional cash to put towards the next generation when it feels right. The 40 series isn't a great generation of cards IMO. I'm expecting better results from the 50 series cards (or whatever it's going to be called), so better to save the money and get one of those at the same level.

This is the importance of a good base system, you want to make it allow for GPU updates and keeping up with new technologies. With this mindset, a gaming system should last 10 years.

Thats a fair point, i will just get the best i can and enjoy it