bigben
Master Poster
As if school wasn't tedious enough...
When I joined 6th form (which I think is compulsory now) I had the option of doing politics if I wanted. Is this not the case where you were?
Don't forget to vote today ;)
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As if school wasn't tedious enough...
When I joined 6th form (which I think is compulsory now) I had the option of doing politics if I wanted. Is this not the case where you were?
Yes but when I joined college (same as 6th form) I had no interest in politics and I also had to choose specific subjects because of what I wanted to do after college. Politics A level shouldn't be compulsory just a few lessons about it for all students just before any election. Even just playing each of the party's broadcast and letting them decide for themselves would be a start. I used to have 30 minute tutor/form every Tuesday, that would have been perfect opportunity.
Results if anyone is interested. About 1/3 of locals have been counted so far. EU elections is announced Sunday
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/events/vote2014/england-council-election-results
Only England has announced anything yet
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/events/vote2014/england-council-election-results
Only England has announced anything yet
tom_gr7
Life Serving
ah that would be awesome if we had that option over here. So many people would vote if that was an option. Would probably end up coming out with 60% of the population saying "none of the above".
I'd argue that spoiling your vote is better than not voting, as it's clear that it was intentional rather than laziness/apathy. It's a shame that there isn't an explicit none of the above entry though.
"Party people may be outside who will want to know your address"
Also note that there is no obligation to give them your details.
"Party people may be outside who will want to know your address"
Also note that there is no obligation to give them your details.
References? And what cases have UK laws been rejected out of interest?
mantadog
Superhero Level Poster
Yeah I voted, I have no excuses though as the polling station is as close to my house as you could get. Only takes me 8-10 seconds from door to door. Whole job done in less than 2 minutes.
One thing I noticed on the new this morning though, quite scary really, well to me at least. The ballot for the European elections asked for an 'x' to be placed in one of the boxes,when I went the staff told me this, it said this on the ballot paper and on the voting card you get through the post. Which that in mind, why did I see in the background of the news this morning a guy sorting the papers and loads had a 'tick' and I saw a couple with what looked like numbers.
Also do you know they could in theory look up who you voted for? Each ballot has a number and its noted down beside your name when you 'sign in' Noticed this the past couple of times, apparently they can only do it with a court order blah blah blah but it does make me a little uneasy they could do it at all.
One thing I noticed on the new this morning though, quite scary really, well to me at least. The ballot for the European elections asked for an 'x' to be placed in one of the boxes,when I went the staff told me this, it said this on the ballot paper and on the voting card you get through the post. Which that in mind, why did I see in the background of the news this morning a guy sorting the papers and loads had a 'tick' and I saw a couple with what looked like numbers.
Also do you know they could in theory look up who you voted for? Each ballot has a number and its noted down beside your name when you 'sign in' Noticed this the past couple of times, apparently they can only do it with a court order blah blah blah but it does make me a little uneasy they could do it at all.
Some of the local elections ballot slips had numbers on them. This is due to multiple councillors being elected for a single area so people must select their 2nd and sometimes 3rd choice. Not sure about the ticks instead of crosses though.
Well I watched a few of the announcements in my area and they mentioned votes that were void. Each time there was a handful of blank papers, multiple votes on one, or marked outside of the box nothing mentioning ticks. So I assume it is accepted.
DeadEyeDuk
Superhero Level Poster
What was that about not bringing actual politics into the thread tom? 
That said...no, not getting into it!
That said...no, not getting into it!
tom_gr7
Life Serving
What was that about not bringing actual politics into the thread tom?
That said...no, not getting into it!
lol, the whole thread is about politics (to a degree)
I could give special mod dispensation... as long as everyone plays nice
I don't think it's any more silly than requiring everyone to wear a seatbelt. It's not silly to want to save lives.
The eCall system is supposed to only trigger in the event of a serious accident.
Won't happen. I can guarantee it won't
tom_gr7
Life Serving
lol, just looking into ukip, see if they have listed any of their policies.
Found this.
Manifesto 2014
Culture and Heritage:
Preserve our public libraries and develop a local
buildings listing programme to allow communities to protect buildings of local
importance.
Safer Communities:
Keep real police officers on the beat and stop the
scrapping of front-line police jobs. Adopt a zero tolerance approach to anti-social
behaviour and crack down on nuisance neighbours.
Energise the voluntary sector:
UKIP believes that the best decisions are
decisions that are made locally. Community groups and volunteers are often
better placed to run facilities and services than the State. By ensuring that these
groups are supported, empowered and energised much more can be achieved.
Here are just some of the ways we will save your money:
Cut councillors’ excessive allowances and expenses
Slash excessive pay deals for senior council staff
Limit the number of highly-paid council employees
Cut the councils’ advertising and self-promotion budgets
Build partnerships to reduce costs
Abolish non-essential and politically-correct jobs and red tape
Leave the EU and save £55 million every day
Drop the EU Landfill Directive to cut refuse disposal costs
Control immigration to ease the burden on local services
Close unnecessary central government departments and quangos
End wasteful EU and UK subsidies to ‘renewable energy scams’,
such as wind turbines and solar farms
Require all visitors to show adequate health insurance at the point
of entry into the UK
Make it easier for schools to sack bad teachers
Reduce bureaucracy in the education system
Sell unused state-owned property and assets - Wave bye bye to the NHS and the rest of our state owned assets, probably end up sold on the cheap
Oppose EU directives adding artificial and detrimental costs
Found this.
Manifesto 2014
Culture and Heritage:
Preserve our public libraries and develop a local
buildings listing programme to allow communities to protect buildings of local
importance.
Safer Communities:
Keep real police officers on the beat and stop the
scrapping of front-line police jobs. Adopt a zero tolerance approach to anti-social
behaviour and crack down on nuisance neighbours.
Energise the voluntary sector:
UKIP believes that the best decisions are
decisions that are made locally. Community groups and volunteers are often
better placed to run facilities and services than the State. By ensuring that these
groups are supported, empowered and energised much more can be achieved.
Here are just some of the ways we will save your money:
Cut councillors’ excessive allowances and expenses
Slash excessive pay deals for senior council staff
Limit the number of highly-paid council employees
Cut the councils’ advertising and self-promotion budgets
Build partnerships to reduce costs
Abolish non-essential and politically-correct jobs and red tape
Leave the EU and save £55 million every day
Drop the EU Landfill Directive to cut refuse disposal costs
Control immigration to ease the burden on local services
Close unnecessary central government departments and quangos
End wasteful EU and UK subsidies to ‘renewable energy scams’,
such as wind turbines and solar farms
Require all visitors to show adequate health insurance at the point
of entry into the UK
Make it easier for schools to sack bad teachers
Reduce bureaucracy in the education system
Sell unused state-owned property and assets - Wave bye bye to the NHS and the rest of our state owned assets, probably end up sold on the cheap
Oppose EU directives adding artificial and detrimental costs
Despite what the media will have you believe, Ukip do not want to sell off/privatise the NHS. They will keep it public run but also bring in people to help it run more efficiently than it currently is. For example more money is going to executives in the NHS than all of the nurses in the country. Unused state-property would be things like that European culture building that cost us around £50m and was forced to close down as it was unused.
Personally I don't see how anyone can disagree with the majority of what is on that list, but idk
Also the general election manifesto isn't released for another few months, so before making any real judgements on the smaller issues I would wait until all parties have released their GE2015 manifesto because what I've seen at the moment is a lot of stuff being completely made up
Personally I don't see how anyone can disagree with the majority of what is on that list, but idk
Also the general election manifesto isn't released for another few months, so before making any real judgements on the smaller issues I would wait until all parties have released their GE2015 manifesto because what I've seen at the moment is a lot of stuff being completely made up
bigben
Master Poster
What was that about not bringing actual politics into the thread tom?
I was under the impression that the "no politics" rule was just to avoid the x vs y arguments based on peoples opinions, whereas Toms comment was based on observation from the votes - no opinions stated.
I've got a question though, I saw one article which said
. What about the other 21% ?
DeadEyeDuk
Superhero Level Poster
The polls for leaving the EU vary, mostly depending on timing. For example I saw one a few weeks ago that was 41% for staying in the EU and 47% for leaving. Although that still leaves 12% in the 'dont know' section. But a lot of people don't seem to know very much about the EU and the effect (big or small) that it has on their lives so they have no idea if it is good or bad.